Re: Kenny vs. Tinsley

["Orion" <johnlyell@hotmail.com>]

I have to agree with Mark. One game doesn't mean anything. Kenny has played
real well but Tinsley has put up better numbers and was a much more solid
pick then Forte. Where the heck is Forte?  Hanging out with Randy Brown, or
on the Moiso list?





----- Original Message -----
From: "Berry, Mark S" <berrym@BATTELLE.ORG>
To: <GuyClinch@AOL.com>; <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: Kenny vs. Tinsley


> OK, I'll bite. Look, Kenny has been great. Fantastic. Better than any of
us
> could have hoped. Fine. He's averaging 9.5 points and 5.4 assists.
>
> Tinsley, a rookie, is averaging 10 points and 9 assists per game. He's
> shooting 37 percent, which is about what Toine shoots, but it only matters
> when it's someone else. That 37 percent comes on 10 shots per game, not
24.
>
> Did Kenny outplay Tinsley last night? You bet. And Reggie Miller outplayed
> Paul Pierce. Want to make any great assertions based on that?
>
> The issue isn't really about whether Tinsley is better than Kenny (even
> though, all things considered, he is). He's clearly a good point guard and
> there's no reason to think he won't get better, other than the widely held
> assumption that only Celtic players improve. Joe Johnson is just learning
> the ropes, but Tinsley is sure to get worse as the league adjusts. Heaven
> help us if the league "adjusts" any more to Joe Johnson. So far they've
> "adjusted" him right out of the rotation.
>
> Anyway, the point all of us have made is that Tinsley obviously is better
> than Joe Forte. He would have been a better pick just like Tony Parker
would
> have been a better pick. The Celtics had their chance and missed it.
>
> Those averages on Tinsley, by the way, include the following assist games:
> 23, 18, 16, 16, 15, 14, 14, 13, 12, 12, 12, 11, 10, 10, 10. Let's see,
> Kenny's high mark for assists is... 11, in the second game of the season.
> Since then, his high mark is 9, which he reached Monday against Toronto.
> Kenny's best scoring game? 19. Tinsley's? 29.
>
> But hey, you're right. We don't need Tinsley. We're much better off with
> Forte. I'm sure Tinsley would be stashed on the injured list all season if
> he were in Boston. After all, the Celtics have not just Kenny, but Milt
> Palacio. The Pacers only have Travis Best and Jalen Rose.
>
> The Celtics butchered this draft. They're going to regret missing chances
on
> Tinsley, Parker, Haywood, Eddie Griffin, Jason Richardson and others.
>
> Mark
>
> P.S. I don't mind the chance they took on Kedrick, just the way they went
> about getting him. They thought they were smarter than everyone else.
Listen
> to them and they talk like JJ and Kedrick were the two top players on
their
> board (they've basically said as much). There are a lot of smart people in
> the NBA who didn't agree. I don't have a problem with taking a chance, but
> do you really think a JC kid from nowhere was going to be so good in the
> workouts he'd move into the top nine? By making that promise, they boxed
> themselves in. When JJ fell to 10, they had to take him (he was the best
> player on their board...), so now you have two guys who play the same
> position and the same position as your best player. Then you wait for your
> turn to come at 21 and throw a bone to Red Auerbach, even though there are
> better players on the board at positions of greater need. You walk away
with
> three guys who play the same position, even though better players at
> positions of need were available. Wouldn't we all be feeling good about
this
> draft if we had Kedrick, Haywood and Tinsley/Parker right now?
>
> ---end---
>
> Can anyone tell me how the great Mr. Tinsley did tonight against that old
> > over-the-hill Kenny?  I must have eye strain cuz it looked to me like he
> > got
> > schooled.
> >
> > Cecil (He did less than JJ)
> >
>
> I saw the same thing...
> The way folks moan about Kenny on this board is amazing..
> considering he just abuses some of this so called upgrades on a nightly
> basis.
> Those rooks just don't compare to Kenny right now...