RE: [Celtics' Stuff Re: Tell Santa to bring us a win

["Maria Lyell" <marialyell@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'll go with Cecil on this one. Kenny is old and is no threat beyond 15
feet. Shammond can spread the defense if he is hitting. Give him some time.
This is really his first year guiding a team. Remember when we gave up on
Wesley and he has had a great career with the Hornets. I would rather have a
guy that can shoot and needs to learn to make better decisions and passes,
than someone who is no threat to the opposition from the perimeter or
penetrating. I am still not happy with Baker's play. Someone needs to light
a fire under this guy.

I wish we could have made a move for Kenny Thomas. maybe that would have
been the spark Baker needs or become the 8 or 9 man.  I wish we could find a
home for Sundov, Wolkowyski and Bremer. They don't bring us any value as I
see it. The physical enforcer guy from summer league whose name I can't
remember could have added more. I would like to get Foyle or Fortson they
are not getting much playing time. Maybe we can get Jiri Welsch also in a
package for Williams or Sundov and Bremer?




Maybe it is time to bring Bird & Cowens back?







John

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Cecil
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Subject: Re: [Celtics' Stuff Re: Tell Santa to bring us a win


I'll go it alone I guess as far as sticking with Shammond.  Nobody ever
claimed he was a better point than Kenny.  But that is not what has been
limiting this team's chances.  His role is to hit the 3 and play decent
defense.  His stats compared to Kenny last year are not as bad as one might
think.  But I think the same way that Delk has come around, given more time
with the club, I see no reason why Shammond won't also.  Besides, Shammond,
even with his recent shooting woes, has hit 30 more 3s than Kenny did all
last year.  And that is what his coachie wants him to do.

He needs to improve his passing and I have no reason to believe that he
won't.  But coming to the conclusion that he sucks based on his first 27
games is shortsighted, especially in light of the improvement shown by Delk.

Cecil


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Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Celtics' Stuff Re: Tell Santa to bring us a win


> Something you Scrooges haven't noticed is that Pierce for the first time
this
> year looked like the PP of last year in the last two games. Threes were
going
> down and he was showing much more energy, basically carrying the team like
he
> did last year in the playoffs. I don't know what he did to get the extra
> energy but I hope he keeps it up...Have you all factored that into your
> dismal outlooks? In my best Belushi, "Oh, Otter, we're afraaaaaaid of all
> those nasty, away games."...
>
> Kenny still moping and the Sonics are saying he isn't good enough to play
> second string on their team. Yet, he was indespensible to us on some of
these
> boards. Philly is saying they are looking for a point guard and don't want
> any of the leftover free agents. Are they angling to get Kenny? That would
> hurt, especially the way Shammond is playing right now. I'm not a Kenny
fan
> but even I (like Kenny)  would have enough sense to pass the ball to
Walker
> once I pass half-court, unlike Shammond...
>
> DJessen33
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