RE: Big Dog apparently traded to Atlanta for trinkets and trash

["Orion" <jlyell@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Sorry bird, I never mentioned Elton.

Although Glen has never been a solid all-around performer, who in his right
mind would take Tim Thomas over Glenn Robinson?   Tim Thomas has been a
major underachiever.


At least some proposals are better than people who complain that we don't
make any significant moves then whine we  try to get better trading an
over-the-hill point and some fodder for Vin Baker and Shammond Williams.

Don't underestimate Shammond Williams.


Did anyone see Shammond last night at Vince Carter's charity game? I heard
the end of a story and thought I heard he had 24 points/24 assists


Not that in a charity game anyone plays D, but this had an impressive
line-up.


A comment form a raptor site to GM Glen Grunwald:


"Hey Glen, do what you can to get Shammond Williams into a Raptor jersey,
Him and Vince look great together!"






-----Original Message-----
From: owner-celtics@igtc.com [mailto:owner-celtics@igtc.com]On Behalf Of
bird
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 4:08 PM
To: Celtics@igtc.com
Subject: RE: Big Dog apparently traded to Atlanta for trinkets and trash


> From: "Orion" <jlyell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> As I have said, strange trades do happen, but they won't if you don't put
> them on the table.
>
> The list response would have been: Why would Milwaukee want a broken down
> Toni Kukoc, and Leon Smith for an all-star?

What, are you going to use every seemingly out-of-the-ordinary trade to
support your deeply held belief that the Boston Celtics can trade their
crap for Olowakandi, Brand and Odom?

I think it might help if you looked at the possible *reasons* behind these
trades.  Might Milwaukee's decision be based on the Bucks' collapse last
year?  They had to trade of the "Big Three", goes their thinking maybe,
and moving Robinson allows them to play Tim Thomas more.  The senator sure
is paying Thomas enough money.  Then there's Robinson's troubles with the
law -- teams have moved players for less.  Plus, everybody's acting like
Kukoc is nothing.  He's not near what he was, which was a pretty good
supporting player indeed.  But, couldn't he contribute, in a backup role,
to the Bucks?  Sure he could.  He's tall, he can pass well, can still
score some, and can play both forward positions.  He's broken down in the
sense that his age is increasing and skill decreasing, but he's hardly
completely broken.  In short, there are reasons for this trade that
present themselves to anyone looking hard enough at it.  Sometimes, in
many of the trade scenarios thrown around here, there's no reason for the
team Boston is "trading" with to do the deal.

I'm surprised that your response didn't include "Why couldn't we get
Robinson?  We could have traded Shammond Williams, Bremer and Darius
Songaila for him!"

Bird
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