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RE: Kidd



And Walker of course would belong in the Shudra (untouchable) class!!!!!!!!
at least, according to several people on this list, no matter what he
does!!!!!!
I had intended not posting until the end of the season, but Kestas' comments
about Hinduism and Vedic themes has put paid to that. 
Unfortunately, Kestas, Kidd is no Brahmin (you are *born* one) - both
literally and figuratively. Literally because of birth and figuratively
because, while he does make the Nets a lot better, he is still not in the
Shaquille O'Neal class. Of course, if you restrict the discussion to the
Eastern Conference, Kidd's probably a logical choice - though I feel others
run him pretty close. 

venkat (the *born* Brahmin - literally and figuratively - on this list)!!! 


-----Original Message-----
From: Kestutis.Kveraga@dartmouth.edu
[mailto:Kestutis.Kveraga@dartmouth.edu]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:35 PM
To: celtics@igtc.com
Subject: Kidd


--- You wrote:
Paul Pierce is straight up better then Kidd.
--- end of quote ---

Once again, we're talking about the MVP, not the best one-on-one player, or
even the best player, period. I'm sure Pierce would kick Kidd's ass 1-on-1.
He
might even kick Duncan's or Shaq's ass 1-on-1. The award, though, is about
the
player who contributes the most to his team. While Pierce contributes a lot
with his scoring, rebounding, and defense, Kidd literally transforms the
Nets
from a collection of parts into a very good team. He scores when his team
needs
him to score, he passes to make other players better than they really are,
he
gets 7 rebounds out of the PG spot, for chrissakes. He's the brain of that
team. Pierce is more like the arms/fists of his team. Thus, continuing the
Vedic theme, Kidd is in the highest - Brahmin (priest) caste, whereas Pierce
is
in the next highest - Kshatriya (warrior) caste. Therefore, according to
Hinduism, Kidd should be the MVP :)


--- You wrote:
I think we will see that in the playoffs. A point guard who cannot command
a double team, and can't shoot better then 40% isn't worthy of jack. Thats 
why
Kidd's teams get drummed out of the playoffs every year. 
--- end of quote ---

The same things coud be said of Cousy as well. 

--- You wrote:
Real MVP's take their team to the Championship.
Thats what an MVP is all about..not regular season excellence.
--- end of quote ---

No, that's what the playoffs MVP is all about. The regular season MVP is
about
doing the most to help your team in the regular season. 

Kestas