RE: Posting Wars

["Ravi Singh" <kelticsfan@home.com>]

Amen!

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-celtics@igtc.com [mailto:owner-celtics@igtc.com]On Behalf Of
Cecil Wright
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:00 PM
To: Celts
Subject: Re: Posting Wars


It is not, nor never has been my intention to engage anybody in any wars on
this list except for Forant :-)  I can get just as heated as anyone else but
I have tried to not launch personal attacks.

This whole thread could have been avoided but then you will have folks
claiming that their rights to freedom of expression have been trampled.

I find the expression offensive and that is why I wanted the thread to
cease.  Alex hit the nail squarely on the head when he mentioned the
possibility of folks having a reason for not wanting it to be used.  Not to
get too into what happened, let's just say that I was subjected to a LOT of
ridicule as a DIRECT result of the usage of that term.  I do NOT like it.

What bothers me, at this point, is that some on this list do not seem to
understand it.  Like it is reverse racism as it has come to be called, to be
offended by such things.  At the risk of being called overly sensitive, or
making a mountain out of a molehill, or any other such ill-advised notions,
it is a personal issue which I have/had to deal with my entire life.

As it pertains to Ryan, I have tried to extend an olive branch to him and he
does not appear to be interested in it and has vowed to continue to call
names.  I do not want that to continue.  But is seems like some folks have
no problem with it as long as it is not directed at them.

I am a 46 year old man who has a family, a career and a life.  I don't need
the aggravation which is caused by this lack of empathy and understanding.
I enjoy the Celtics and enjoy participating in discussions about them, as
opposed to arguments.  When the discussions must be constantly qualified
with an explanation of why one finds something, which is universally
acclaimed as distasteful as some of the remarks featured lately, there is a
problem.

With all this shit going on around the world, this list should be a fun
place to visit, not one where we have to defend our feelings and the reasons
why.

Cecil




----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorine Pratt" <norine@sover.net>
To: "Celts" <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 7:49 AM
Subject: Posting Wars


>     Thanks, Joe, for posting that last message.  I had replied to Patrick,
> saying I didn't believe how the list had changed, either.  People have the
> right to disagree, but to turn this list into a way to insult people and
> make them feel degraded just because they have an opinion different from
> yours is downright childish and unreasonable.
>     I can certainly understand the frustration of many because the Celts
> haven't been winning in a long time, but I think I see light at the end of
> the tunnel now that Pitino's gone back to college where he belongs.  It
> doesn't happen overnight or in just one season.  A championship is not
going
> to happen this year, and probably not next, but if they continue to
improve,
> we have hope it will not be too long.  As long as they're playing well,
> giving it all they have, playing smart, etc., I'm satisfied.  I see a huge
> improvement in Antoine's game, for instance - he's doing those things
you've
> all been wanting him to do and it's had an astounding effect.  We have a
> promising rookie in Joe Johnson - in other words there are lots of
> positives.  Try looking at the things that are now right, instead of
wrong.
> Children call people names - as adults we're supposed to be above that.
> We're all pretty intelligent people, so why not act like it?
> Dorine