Re: Cecil, get your facts straight and Tammo (JB) you did see the game right?

["Cecil Wright" <cecil@hfx.eastlink.ca>]

You, Mr. Lee, just don't get it.  Go ahead and flame away with your
"Melonheaded" posts...even though myself and others have asked for an end to
that name for the thread.  But why listen to anyone else?  And you call
Walker selfish and pigheaded?

What facts do I need to get right?  You have me ROTFLMAO stating your
satisfaction of the effort put forth by Dino in comparison to Toine.  Here
is a man who plays each game hard and is trying to improve as he should be.
By your own admission, you hold him up to superstars like Bird.

But you also admitted that you don't like him which I believe is the crux of
the matter.  That's why you resort to your namecalling, not because of his
perceived inability to perform at the Bird-like level you desire.  I doubt
that even if he did, you would be satisfied.  It's much more chic for you to
downplay his effectiveness for you bed has been made for the past 5 years of
his unintelligent play in your eyes.

You have never, nor will you ever, hear me praise Toine or anyone else for
selfish play Mr. Lee.  I am a fan of team play.  And though you say he has
only had one good game, I think he does other things to help the team win
other than score.  He is making a conscious effort to find the open man and
to be a strong rebounder.  He has also had games in each of his pro seasons
which have been indicative of the fact that he has indisputable talent.
(Washington, Sacramento, Utah) But, realistically, no athlete can sustain
the level that you want every night.  It's impossible.  You want the guy to
average a triple double each night apparently.  He has never had the good
fortune of playing with a first-rate point guard for any real length of
time.  And his coach thinks highly of his ability, at least, that what he
says.  It could all be a smokescreen but then they were very foolish to sign
him to such a contract then.

To listen to you speak, playing vs other NBA stars poses no challenge at
all.  Just lace em up, go out on the court and beat em.

I do not make a habit of bashing players, even if I do not enjoy their
style.  I'll leave that to you.

What facts do I need to get straight?  Certainly nothing about you.

Cecil



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Lee" <rlee_at_channing@yahoo.com>
To: <Celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:50 PM
Subject: Cecil, get your facts straight and Tammo (JB) you did see the game
right?


> Cecil, my being a Celtics fan is why I ream Walker so
> hard FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS because he is probably
> the most inconsistent and unsaavy leader the Celtics
> have ever had.  I even found Rick Fox, Dee Brown, and
> Dino Radja less frustrating as team leaders because
> they played to the best of their abilities WHILE
> WALKER DOES NOT.  Sure their numbers were not as good
> but they did what their limited talent allowed them
> to.  You can't blame them for not being All-Stars if
> they don't have the skill.  Walker for the past five
> years has misused his abilties.  Instead of using his
> rebounding prowess and quickness to free up shooters
> on the offensive end, he jacked up 100 3's a game.
> Why wouldn't I or anyone else for that matter be
> pissed at him.  The damn tickets are ridiculously
> priced for the better seats because of him and
> Pierce's max contracts.  I don't mind paying more  for
> Pierce because he can score at will but for a guy who
> turns over the ball multiple times per game and misses
> 100 shots a game while ignoring able open teammates,
> would you pay to see that?  Aren't you supposed to be
> a youth basketball coach?  You should the last one
> praising Toine for his selfish play.  He had one good
> game and you're treating him like a messiah.  Yes he
> had a great game, that's it.  What about the other 4
> years of his career?  Did you forget that?  It seems
> like you support Walker on the 3 or 4 games where he
> has been superb and didn't shoot 20 % from the field
> and have 20 turnovers.  Who's the real fan now?  You
> seem to have forgotten I have been on Walker's case
> since the first day he was made captain so at least I
> am consistent.  Until Walker can show he can use his
> abilities to his best FOR AN ENTIRE SEASON, I am still
> gonna make melonhead posts until he gets traded.
>
> And Tammo,
>
> if you saw the game live, there something called a
> "shot clock" that isn't always shown on the TV.
> Jordan had to put up several shots with 4 seconds
> left.  If you knew that someone is going to have to
> put it up real fast, it makes that much easier to
> anticipate his shot and block him if you have Pierce's
> athleticism.  Heck even Walker blocked him on one
> play.
> Find a job, post your resume.
> http://careers.yahoo.com