Re: Webber scenario, Griffin impressive in Bulls Workout

["John Lyell" <johnlyell@hotmail.com>]

Williams is Webber's best buddy and he wants out due to lack of playing
time. I would still make an offer of Walker, Anderson and #10 for Webber and
Williams. We would be solid at the 1 and 4 and 2 or 3 with Pierce, so I
would take the best available at 11, possibly  a defensive specialist like
Jefferson, or Johnson, Forte or Hassel. What about Gerald Wallace ?  His
profile sounds like Darius Miles to me

http://nbadraft.net/profiles/geraldwallace.htm

http://nbadraft.net/profiles/joejohnson.htm

http://nbadraft.net/profiles/trentonhassell.htm

http://nbadraft.net/profiles/josephforte.htm



Then for with the best available at 21.  Gilbert Arenas, Trenton Hassel ,
Tayshaun Prince, Delambert, Ken Johnson or Radmanovic

http://nbadraft.net/profiles/vladimirradmanovic.htm

http://nbadraft.net/profiles/samueldalembert.htm


http://nbadraft.net/profiles/gilbertarenas.htm


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Griffin Wows Bulls in Chicago
Seton Hall freshman Eddie Griffin was just happy to be wearing Bulls shorts
at his first workout for the Chicago Bulls yesterday. "It's a great feeling
to sit here in Bulls shorts," Griffin said. "I was thinking that Michael
Jordan wore these shorts."  They must have inspired him.

A source at the workout told sportsTALK that Eddie Griffin lit up the
competition and had a stellar workout for the Bulls.  "He was phenomenal,"
the source told sportsTALK. "This kid is going to be special."  Griffin
worked out alongside high school phenom Tyson Chandler, DePaul center Steven
Hunter and Iowa State's Martin Rancik yesterday.  But all eyes were on
Griffin. However, given a string of strong workouts by Griffin, he may not
be available when the Bulls pick at number four -- if the Bulls even own the
pick.

The Chicago Sun Times is reporting this morning that Jerry Krause spent time
during the workouts working the phones. He said there has been interest from
teams looking to trade for the fourth pick. "Suffice to say there's interest
in a lot of things we have," Krause said. "I'm talking to people about a lot
of things, and the No. 4 pick is a valuable pick."

Chandler's workout was less impressive the source told sportsTALK.  "He
seemed a bit tentative and his shots just weren't falling for him." Chandler
is well aware that he's under a microscope right now. "Teams watch you
during the season and know about your weaknesses, and what they're trying to
do during the workouts is to exploit the weaknesses they think you have,"
Chandler told the Sun Times. "People think the same about me as [Chris]
Mihm, that I'm soft. But I feel I'm nowhere near as soft, so when I go to
these workouts, I try to . . . play more aggressively."

DePaul center Steven Hunter also had a good workout according to the source.
"He still needs to gain more weight," the source told sportsTALK, "but he's
further along than Chandler is right now."  Hunter told the Daily Herald
that teams are just now realizing his potential. "I did great (for the Bulls
on Wednesday)," Hunter said after the workout. "Tyson, he's pretty much the
same player as me, the same type of movements, height and agility. A lot of
high school players are ranked ahead of me (in the draft). But the thing is
I'm only 19 years old and I have two years of major college basketball. So I
have just as much potential as these guys, I think. People are starting to
realize that."







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----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Murphy" <tfmiii@worldnet.att.net>
To: "Celtic list" <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:08 AM
Subject: Webber scenario?


> While we're pondering potential blockbuster trades in lieu of any actual
> news I thought I'd throw this out there:
>
> 1) Obviously, if Sacto can re-sign Webber they do so and none of what
> follows can transpire.
>
> 2) However, if Sacto cannot re-sign Webber, they will want to extract as
> much as possible and given their druthers would likely try to steer Webber
> to the Eastern Conference (rather than, for example, let Webber go to
> conference rival Houston as a FA with nothing in return).
>
> 3) NY is hot after Webber (who isn't?) but given the recent Knick first
> round exit they might be willing to offer something significant for a
> change: Sprewell and Camby.
>
> ---------
> Report: Knicks close to signing and keeping Houston
> New York, NY (Sports Network) - According to a published report, the New
> York Knicks are close to signing guard Allan Houston to a seven-year, $115
> million contract and are planning to keep him in New York.
>
> The New York Daily News reported on Thursday that, according to an unnamed
> high-ranking Knicks official, New York will also attempt to acquire
> Sacramento Kings forward Chris Webber, who will be a free agent at the end
> of the season, while not having to trade Houston to complete a deal.
>
> If Houston does ink the reported deal, it would be the richest in terms of
> total contract value in franchise history.
>
> Houston is expected to option out of the final two years of his current
> contract on July 1 to become a free agent. He averaged 18.7 points per
game
> this past season, his fifth with the club. For his career, the University
of
> Tennessee product is averaging 16.4 points, having also played his first
> three seasons in the league with the Detroit Pistons.
>
> Rumors during the season had the Knicks pulling off a sign-and-trade deal
> with the Kings, where the teams would swap Houston and Marcus Camby for
> Webber. Now, if the Knicks do complete this deal, it could be likely that
if
> a deal is made for Webber that Latrell Sprewell may be heading to
> Sacramento. Sprewell would be making less than Houston and would be a more
> attractive pick up for the Kings.
> 05/10 10:56:38 ET
> ----------------------
>
> 4) If you are the Sacto Kings do you want Sprewell and Camby? Camby can
fill
> in for the departed Webber (although not in the scoring column) but where
> does Sprewell play? You already have Peja, D. Christie and Turkoglu at the
> 2/3 spots so Spree merely aggravates an existing log-jam.
>
> 5) Sacto's real needs if Webber departs are PF and PG. So now the tough
> call - do you prefer Spree/Camby or this combo - A. Walker and K.
Anderson?
> Walker is at least comparable to Webber, if not quite the force down low.
> Anderson is coming off one of his most disappointing seasons ever, so many
> fans may have forgotten that he turned in one of his finest professionally
> (if not statistically) just one year ago (buying into Pitino's game plan,
> playing in all 82 games, posting a 3rd career best 44% from the field
> including a career best 38% 3ptrs, better than 3-1 asst/to ratio). Now you
> hear that Kenny is all washed up, but he is only one month older than
> Sprewell. If you are Sacto, do you gamble on KA rebounding from a bad year
> in bad surroundings and providing the offense and care with the rock that
> Jason Williams can't, or do you go for the sure thing with Sprewell? (And
> that calculation assumes that Camby vs Walker is a wash - which it isn't).
> Hence the window of opportunity may be available for the following deal:
>
> 6) Sacto trades Chris Webber (sign & trade $12.6mil - 105% of current
> salary), Jason Williams ($2.6 mil exp. in '03) and Nick Anderson ($5.6 mil
> exp. in '03) and receives A. Walker ($11.25 mil exp. in '05) and K.
Anderson
> ($8.35 mil exp. in '03)
>
> NYK trade L. Sprewell (11.25 mil exp. in '05) and M. Camby ($6.25 mil exp.
> in '05) and receive Chris Webber (sign & trade $12.6mil) and Nick Anderson
> ($5.6 mil exp. in '03)
>
> Celts trade A. Walker ($11.25 mil exp. in '05) and K. Anderson $8.35 mil
> exp. in '03) and receive L. Sprewell (11.25 mil exp. in '05), M. Camby
> ($6.25 mil exp. in '05) and J. Williams ($2.6 mil exp. in '03)
>
> 7) Why does it work?
>
> Sacramento get nearly equal value in receiving Walker for Webber and
shores
> up its weakest position -  PG. Lemons are turned into lemonade. Walker is
> signed long-term and still has potential to fulfill (in other words, his
> play can improve if he puts his mind to it). A winning situation in Sacto
> surrounded by other more veteran players would be the best situation for
> Walker to realize his remaining potential. Although not nearly as dominant
> inside as Webber,  Walker's perimeter game is more polished and along with
> his quickness it may be of greater worth in combating the Lakers (against
> whom Webber seemed to disappear inside anyway). Anderson provides a steady
> hand at PG (very few TOs) who can contribute 15ppg. He would probably walk
> the length of the country barefoot over hot coals to go to a winning
> situation back west. He knows his clock is ticking so I'd expect him to
show
> up in top form if this deal were to go down. That having been said, Bobby
> Jackson will still get a lot of minutes backing him up and still provide
the
> best D at the point. Starting five: Kenny A., Doug Christie, Peja
> Stojakovic, A. Walker, Divac. Key subs: Bobby Jackson, Turkoglu, Scot
> Pollard
>
> NYKnicks gets the marquee player and big man they have been lusting after
> (and Webber gets the biggest stage in the country - plus he's out of
Shaq's
> conference). NY receives the best player in the deal. They finally resolve
> the Houston/Sprewell situation without losing talent and also create space
> to start Rice at SF. This still leaves a hole at center which will have to
> be addressed or filled by Kurt Thomas et.al. (who knows, if NY gets Webber
> Ewing may want to rethink his FA destination). This will remain a veteran
> team but one that now has an inside option to complement Houston and Rice
on
> the perimeter. Starting five: Mark Jackson, Houston, Rice, Webber, K.
> Thomas? Key subs: Charlie Ward, L. Johnson, O. Harrington.
>
> The Celts plug a number of holes (PG, SG, shotblocking, rebounding,
defense)
> at the price of one of its two marquee players. This sets the stage for
> Pierce to continue his ascent into superstardom with an all-around batter
> supporting cast. Jason Williams gives them a crowd pleaser at PG who loves
> to push the tempo and run the break. The price is bad shots and TOs but it
> may well be worth it to get the Cs moving once again and convert some easy
> baskets. Anderson had a strained relationship with coach O'B and was
> basically shelved after Pitino jumped ship. Williams gets a fresh start
and
> at the least provides a bit more passing and offense at PG thereby
lessening
> the pressure to draft a PG this year in what is acknowledged to be a weak
> crop of point men. Sprewell not only provides instant offense, veteran
> smarts and a one man fast break waiting to happen at SG (filling a vast
hole
> in the Cs lineup) but he is also one of the best perimeter and one-on-one
> defenders in the game. If that defense is breached Camby will be there to
> cover with his shotblocking ability. The pairing of Camby with Vitaly
> Potapenko in the frontcourt should benefit both players for each can
> compensate for the limitations of the other. Camby brings intensity and
> shotblocking and V's strength and jumpshot should be able to handle those
> bulky players that give Camby such difficulty. Three positions are shored
up
> (PF, SG, PG) allowing the Celts to draft the BPA with their three draft
> picks, thereby laying a deeper foundation for the future. Count this team
in
> the playoffs next season (wouldn't a series against the Knicks be
> interesting?) Starting five: J. Williams, Sprewell, Pierce, Camby, Vitaly
P.
> Key subs: Milt Palacio, Tony Battie, draft picks?
>
> Thoughts? Comments?
>
> Best wishes - Tom Murphy
>
>