Re: espn insider: Hunter, Parker rising, Tinsley, Bradley Randolph si nking

["John Lyell" <johnlyell@hotmail.com>]

Chad Ford seems to have some ideas I have not heard anywhere else. He says
Hunter has moved above Woods and Heywood and Parker will be the top point
taken as his offensive ability is much better than Cook & Tinsley.

He also mentioned Woods and Tinsley's stock dropping big time and it appears
Tinsley may be available at 21.

The Kings are reported to be shopping Jason Williams big time. Could we get
him for #21 if Tinsley or Cook are available? Do we want him?  Jerry West
wanted him big time when he was drafted, but many say he has poor decision
making ability. he sure disappeared in the Laker series

Imagine landing Mohammed somehow for Anderson, Williams for #21 or even next
years #1, then adding 2 out of  Radmanovic (may have the best inside/outside
game in the draft supposedly plays a lot  more physical than Stojakovic)
Johnson, Jefferson, Brown or Murphy







----- Original Message -----
From: "OzerskyJA" <OzerskyJA@cmog.org>
To: <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 6:43 AM
Subject: espn insider: Hunter, Parker rising, Tinsley, Bradley Randolph si
nking


> I just wrote how great it would be if Randolph were available at
>
> 21.  How about if Bradley were, as it says he might be!  Gasol, Brown,
> Bradley...Diop, Gasol, Bradley....Gasol, Johnson, Randolph....It looks
like
> the cat is out of the bag with Tony Parker, though.  Chris Wallace must
hate
> this week so much....
>
>
>
>
>
> The 2001 NBA Draft is just two days away and the elements are in
> commotion as teams try to piece together last minute workouts to get a
> handle on not only whom they want, but who will actually be there when
they
> pick Wednesday evening.  "I've never seen so much craziness surrounding a
> draft," one GM in the lottery told ESPN Insider. "On any given draft we
put
> together three to four scenarios of what could happen on draft day. This
> year that number is closer to 10."  Trade talk continues to swirl around
> Washington, where Michael Jordan has the No. 1 pick. The Grizzlies,
Pistons,
> Celtics, Sonics and Rockets all are making efforts to move up, but right
now
> all is quiet on the trade front. Expect that to change by draft time.  The
> Grizzlies brought in Michigan State guard Jason Richardson
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/player?playerId=783> Sunday for a
second
> look. He worked out against Austin Peay's Trenton Hassell
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/player?playerId=2409>, and by all
> accounts had a much better workout. The Grizzlies are in the process of
> deciding whether to draft Richardson at No. 6, or trade down to No. 9 and
> select either Joe Johnson
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/player?playerId=4440> or DeSagana Diop
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/player?playerId=10005>.  Meanwhile,
> several prospects continue to rise as we get closer to draft day.  High
> school player Kwame Brown
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/player?playerId=10001> now seems to be
> the consensus number one player as we inch closer to draft day. High
school
> phenom Tyson Chandler
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/player?playerId=10002> seems to be his
> main competition for number one. Brown, like everyone else these days, is
> hoping that the LA Clippers grab him at number two.  "They're a young and
> up-and-coming team," Brown told the LA Daily News. "In maybe a year or
two,
> they'll be in the playoffs. They're young and that's one of their upsides,
> being able to beat a lot of the older guys up and down the court and tire
> people out. If they can keep the team together, Lamar (Odom) and Darius,
> it'll be a great thing."  DePaul's Steven Hunter
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/player?playerId=1300>, who has had two
> solid weeks of workouts, has impressed everywhere he's gone. Though talk
> about Hunter going as high as No. 9 to Detroit seem premature, he may end
up
> in Seattle at No. 12. Hunter worked out in Boston and Seattle this weekend
> to yet more rave reviews, a league source told Insider. He'll be in
Orlando
> today for one more encore performance. Orlando, which picks at No. 15,
won't
> let him slide past there. Hunter has slipped ahead of big men Brendan
> Haywood <http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/player?playerId=162> and Loren
> Woods <http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/player?playerId=2665> on almost
> every team's draft board.  Arkansas shooting guard Joe Johnson seems to be
> back in favor after a slow start to the workout process. A league source
> told Insider Sunday night that Johnson has received a promise to drafted
in
> the top 9. Johnson has skipped several last minute requests to work out
from
> teams drafting below there. The Cleveland Cavaliers
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=Cle> are said to be debating
> between Johnson and Yugoslavian Vladimir Radmanovic for their pick at No.
8,
> the source told Insider.  The Celtics are denying that they have any deal
on
> the table with Arn Tellam to draft JUCO star Kedrick Brown
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/player?playerId=10017>. Rumors have
been
> running rampant that Brown, who has refused to work out with anyone not in
> the top 10, is a lock for the Celtics.  "He's another guy we've tried to
get
> in for a workout to no avail," Celtics GM Chris Wallace told the Boston
> Herald. "He's sort of like (Yugoslav forward Vladimir) Radmanovic, a late
> climber in the process. He's an athletic kid, probably the best junior
> college player in the country. He started out as an interior player in
high
> school and worked his way out to the 3 spot."  Nevertheless, Brown
continues
> to receive high marks from the select few who have seen him play. He
> combines the athleticism that GMs covet with a very nice outside shooting
> touch.  The Celtics have been focusing more of their attention on high
> school center DeSagana Diop, who many now feel could drop out of the top
10.
> Diop slipped into the Berto center this weekend for a super secret private
> workout for the Bulls against another high school big man, Eddy Curry
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/player?playerId=10004>. This is the
> second time the Bulls have worked out Curry, fueling speculation in
Chicago
> that the Bulls will select him at No. 4 if he falls that far.  France's
Tony
> Parker <http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/player?playerId=10012> seems to
> have leaped ahead of Omar Cook
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/player?playerId=456> and Jamaal
Tinsley
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/player?playerId=896> on most team's
> draft boards. Parker, who first wowed scouts at the Nike Hoop Summit last
> year, was compared to the Suns' Jason Kidd by one league source.  "He's a
> better shooter than Kidd, but he's got that aloof demeanor on the court, a
> quiet cockiness that show he's in charge," the source told Insider. "He's
> still a bit frail, but he could really be a big time prospect."  Just how
> high could Parker go? He's one of several names that seem bottle necked at
> the 15 slot where Orlando is selecting. Golden State (No. 14), Toronto
(No.
> 17) and Boston (No. 21) all love him. He won't slip past Utah at No. 24.
> Maryland's Terence Morris
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/player?playerId=160> and Indiana's
Kirk
> Haston <http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/player?playerId=746> are two
> players making late charges toward the first round. Morris has put
together
> a string of solid workouts and the buzz is that Houston (No. 23),
> Philadelphia (No. 26) and San Antonio (No. 28) will all give Morris a long
> look. Morris's game continues to intrigue scouts who insist that in the
> right situation he could become a key third man on a successful team.
> Haston has also put on several impressive workouts. He has the size and
> shooting ability NBA teams covet, though there is some concern about his
> lack of athleticism. It's widely believed that Haston would have pulled
out
> of the draft had he not received a promise that he'd be taken in the first
> round. Philadelphia (No. 26), Vancouver (No. 27) and San Antonio (No. 28)
> are the most likely destinations.  Grizzlies staff settling in
>
<javascript:launchBrowser('http://www.gomemphis.com/newca/sports/062501/s25g
> riz.htm', 'sitelineWin', 700, 550)> Ron Higgins/Memphis Commercial Appeal
> Kwame Brown likes the Clippers
>
<javascript:launchBrowser('http://www.dailynewslosangeles.com/sports/article
> s/0601/23/spo13.asp', 'sitelineWin', 700, 550)> David Felton/LA Daily News
> Jerry Kraus cloaked in secrecy
>
<javascript:launchBrowser('http://www.suntimes.com/output/basketball/mock24.
> html', 'sitelineWin', 700, 550)> Roman Modrowski/Chicago Sun Times  NBA or
> CIA: Krause hides Diop's visit
>
<javascript:launchBrowser('http://chicagotribune.com/sports/printedition/art
> icle/0,2669,SAV-0106240429,FF.html', 'sitelineWin', 700, 550)> KC
> Johnson/Chicago Tribune  Celtics want to work out Diop
>
<javascript:launchBrowser('http://www2.bostonherald.com/sport/basketball/cs0
> 6232001.htm', 'sitelineWin', 700, 550)> Steve Bulpett/Boston Herald  JUCO
> star Kederick Brown might be secret weapon
>
<javascript:launchBrowser('http://www.miami.com/herald/content/sports/basket
> ball/nba/digdocs/098961.htm', 'sitelineWin', 700, 550)> Stephen
Holder/Miami
> Herald  Jordan Not Part of Wizards' Plan
>
<javascript:launchBrowser('http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35
> 425-2001Jun22.html', 'sitelineWin', 700, 550)> Steve Wyche/Washington Post
> White igniting number one buzz
>
<javascript:launchBrowser('http://www.charlotte.com/observer/sports/docs/rod
> ney06230.htm', 'sitelineWin', 700, 550)> Stan Olson/Charlotte Observer
> Woods, Bradley, Tinsley sinking  With all of the turmoil going on at the
top
> of the draft, several players are inevitably sinking into the sunset as
the
> big night approaches.  Chief among them is Arizona big man Loren Woods.
> Woods, who impressed scouts at a private workout in Chicago and several
team
> workouts, seems to be sliding. Though he has bulked up, lingering
questions
> about his back and his mental toughness will likely cause Woods to slip
out
> of the lottery. He shouldn't slide any further than No. 20 to Cleveland, a
> disappointing turn of events for someone who would've been a high lottery
> pick last year had he declared for the draft.  With the emergence of Tony
> Parker and St. John's Omar Cook, don't be surprised to see Iowa State
point
> guard Jamaal Tinsley fall all the way to the mid 20s. Several teams,
> including Washington and Chicago, like Tinsley, but he's had a difficult
> time creating the buzz of many of the other prospects. A so-so workout in
> Golden State means the Warriors will likely pass on Tinsley at No. 14.
> Boston at No. 21 or Orlando at 22 are the next two closest teams that need
a
> point guard. Given the right circumstances, Tinsley could slip all the way
> to Utah at No.24. Talk about a gift from heaven.  Another big guy
seemingly
> lost in the shuffle is Villanova's Michael Bradley, who could conceivably
go
> anywhere from Boston (No. 11) to Houston (No. 23). By all accounts,
Bradley
> has had solid workouts, but the emergence of Vladimir Radmanovic, Steven
> Hunter and Troy Murphy have hurt Bradley's chances of landing in the
> lottery.  Michigan State's Zach Randolph is one of the hardest players in
> the first round to get a read on. He could go as high as Orlando No. 15 or
> as low as Utah No. 24. Insider talked to several teams that were impressed
> with Randolph's game and conditioning (sorry about the Twinkie remark
Zach).
> One team told Insider he has the talent to be a lottery pick.  However,
> every positive assessment came with a caveat. Randolph, according to a
> league source, hasn't scored well on the personality tests that teams
give.
> Teams are concerned about Randolph's maturity and how he'll handle being a
> 19 year-old millionaire. Said the source, "He may be the most immature
> player in the draft, and that has teams thinking twice."  Indiana picking
up
> the pace  Count the Pacers
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=ind> among the teams
> desperately trying to move into the first round by Wednesday. Along with
the
> Knicks, the Pacers are looking to land somewhere in the mid-first round
and
> are targeting Houston, Boston, Orlando and Cleveland, all of whom have
> multiple picks.  According to the Indianapolis Star, the Pacers are trying
> to package Austin Croshere
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3182> in a deal
that
> would bring them a mid first round pick. Pacers GM Donnie Walsh said that
> Indiana will be active in pursuing a draft pick or free-agents to help the
> team along. "We don't feel like we need a major overhaul," Walsh said.
"But
> we've got good young players who need help."  Would Chris Webber
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=1272> help? Of
> course. But Walsh denied that the Pacers have been talking to the Kings
> about a Webber swap. Teams can't start discussing free-agents until July
1.
> However, Walsh said he wouldn't pursue Webber at the expense of trading
> Jermaine O'Neal
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3120>. "If they
want
> O'Neal," Walsh said, "that would be a deal breaker."  Boston and Houston
had
> a strong interest in Croshere last summer and would likely be the teams
most
> willing to do a deal. Each has three first round draft picks.  The other
> team that seems on the move is the Knicks
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=Nyk>. According to the New
> York Post, Knicks president Scott Layden has his eye on several prospects,
> including St. John's point guard Omar Cook
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/player?playerId=456>.  "We'll prepare
as
> if we can move up," Layden said. "If we can move up, great. I won't put a
> percentage on it, but a lot of teams are poking around, seeing what they
can
> get. We've had conversations with teams about moving up. We'll continue to
> work to see if we can improve ourselves in the draft."  Indeed, teams with
> multiple first-round picks are more then ever looking to trade one of
them.
> The Post has reported Layden has had conversations with Orlando about its
> No. 23 pick.  Croshere looks like odd man out
>
<javascript:launchBrowser('http://www.indystar.com/print/sports/sun/articles
> /krav24.html', 'sitelineWin', 700, 550)> Bob Kravitz/Indianapolis Star
> Tribune  Walsh denies Pacers asked about Webber
>
<javascript:launchBrowser('http://www.indystar.com/print/sports/sat/articles
> /pnotes23.html', 'sitelineWin', 700, 550)> Mark Monieth/Indianapolis Star
> Webber shopping for homes in Orlando
>
<javascript:launchBrowser('http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/columnists/
> orl-spt-schmitz062301.column?coll=orl%2Dsports%2Dheadlines',
'sitelineWin',
> 700, 550)> Brian Schmitz/Orlando Sentinel  Knicks may be moving up
> <javascript:launchBrowser('http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/28050.htm',
> 'sitelineWin', 700, 550)> Marc Berman/NY Post  Kings ransom on White
> Chocolate's head?  It's one of the worst kept secrets in the NBA: The
Kings
> are actively seeking to move point guard Jason Williams
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3250>.  The
> Sacramento Bee is reporting that the Orlando Magic
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=orl> and the Indiana Pacers
> <http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=ind> are interested in
> Williams.  "We haven't spoken to them about Jason," said the member of the
> Magic organization, "but I think we would have some interest."  Don't be
> surprised if the Kings try to package Williams in a sign-and-trade with
> Chris Webber <http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=1272>
if
> they believe Webber will not re-sign. A Webber-Williams combo might be
> enough to fetch Sacramento a king's ransom in return, but Williams alone
> would go for a deeply discounted price, according to the Bee.  Said one
> front-office executive of the possibility of trading Williams: "I think
he's
> in play everywhere. The problem with Jason is I think Sacramento wants his
> value to be his potential and anyone that is thinking about trading for
him
> wants his value to be what he's proven on the court.  "That's the sticking
> point. I wouldn't give up a lot to get him. I'm not sure what 'a lot' is,
> but he's too volatile to spend a lot on."  Said another executive: "The
> Kings want to trade him as the No. 7 pick of the draft (as he was in 1998)
> compared to what he has done. It's going to be hard to find a middle
ground
> on that one."  Point guard for a price: Kings shopping J-Will
>
<javascript:launchBrowser('http://www.sacbee.com/sports/news/sports06_200106
> 24.html', 'sitelineWin', 700, 550)> Martin McNeal/Sacramento Bee
>
>
>
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