Re: Toine's lack of finesse

["John Lyell" <johnlyell@hotmail.com>]

I am still not sold that being a great player results in a good coach or
talent evaluator. I never thought Russell was a good coach. Jabbar has not
even been given a look.  Phil Jackson and Riley were mediocre role players
but have been successful coaches. The GM's behind them and having some good
talent have helped.

I was not overly impressed with Larry's effort in Indiana. He inherited a
good core of veterans in guys like Miller and Jackson.



Based on AW's career so far I tend to lean toward Danny. I just don't see
the discipline we need. I do think he has talent but does not fit at the 3
or 4 spots which causes problems. If he wasin better shape and bulked up he
could be a monster 4, but doesn't have much jumping ability. He has passed
well in the last few weeks but too many 3-19 nights and still firing to help
a team.  I would move him for Elton Brand ( an old school 4) or  Rahim or
Bibby.

Walker, Herren and the Denver Pick for Rahim & Bibby ? They need to rebuild
and I don't think the Denver pick will help us much.



I like what I have seen from Eddie Griffin, but unless we have some real
luck I doubt we will land him.




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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cecil Wright" <cecil@hfx.eastlink.ca>
To: <Celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: Toine's lack of finesse


> Based off their careers as players and coaches, I'll take Larry's word
> first.  Wouldn't you?
>
> Cecil
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Lyell" <johnlyell@hotmail.com>
> To: "Cecil Wright" <cecil@hfx.eastlink.ca>;
<jeff_chin@notes.teradyne.com>;
> <Celtics@igtc.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 6:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Toine's lack of finesse
>
>
> > Danny Ainge has a different opinion. He said Pitino chose to build
around
> > the wrong guy. Walker is not a franchise player.
> >
> > John
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cecil Wright" <cecil@hfx.eastlink.ca>
> > To: <jeff_chin@notes.teradyne.com>; <Celtics@igtc.com>
> > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 4:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: Toine's lack of finesse
> >
> >
> > > "Walker is a terrific talent, a superstar in the making.  I love the
way
> > he
> > > plays.  He passes the ball so well for a big man, and he can rebound
the
> > > ball.  He takes a lot of bad shots, but he's still very young, and a
> good
> > > coach will get that straightened out" - Larry Bird
> > >
> > > If only Larry knew as much as you and Ryan.
> > >
> > > Cecil
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <jeff_chin@notes.teradyne.com>
> > > To: <Celtics@igtc.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 12:08 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Toine's lack of finesse
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Ryan, I couldn't agree more with your comparison of Toine's game to
> that
> > > of
> > > > a 10 year old's.  The hooking and straight-arming tactics are cheap
> and
> > > > should be called an offensive foul just like when players go up for
a
> > lay
> > > > up and use their free hand to push the defender's swatting hand
away.
> I
> > > > don't believe antoine gets triple-teamed down low.  He just likes to
> > > barrel
> > > > into the whole team when going to the whole.  I also don't buy the
> > > argument
> > > > that Toine is "gutsy" when he repeatedly tries to take it in when
he's
> > > been
> > > > swatted 3 times previously in the same game.  The terms for that are
> > (take
> > > > your pick):  forcing it, being a ball hog, and being selfish.   I
> admit
> > > > that toine is a versatile player because he can rebound, dribble,
> pass,
> > > > somewhat shoot 3's, and somewhat post up, but when someone nullifies
> > part
> > > > of his game, he should defer to his other skills instead of trying
to
> > > > always prove that he's da man and proceed to get humiliated by a
> > > > rejection(s) and then trying to save face by bitching at the refs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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