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RE: First 3 quarters = All Star



I thinks its 25 wins if they're lucky.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-celtics@igtc.com [mailto:owner-celtics@igtc.com]On Behalf Of
> Ryan Lee
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 2:44 PM
> To: OzerskyJA; Celtics@igtc.com
> Subject: RE: First 3 quarters = All Star
> 
> 
> If he puts up good numbers for 3/4 of a game and then
> botches it in the end where it counts most, how much
> good does that do for the team.  Didn't Vin Baker put
> up huge numbers in Milwaukee and the Bucks would still
> lose?  As for best outside shooters, overall he's
> improved but have you seen him the past month and a
> half?  He's been anemic from 3 point land and his shot
> selection has gotten worse as the season wears on. 
> Part of Antoine's success in the shooting department
> maybe that he hasn't had to play against any quality
> defenders too often.  Rasheed ate him alive and Toine
> missed 21 shots.  That's inexcusable to put up that
> many shots and miss.  Also Toine's Fg % is still
> hovering at 40% which doesn't look too good.
> Overall, I wouldn't go as far as saying that Toine is
> SOLELY to blame for the C's misfortunes but he does
> play a major part in many of the close games when he
> forces the issue or takes his usual ill advised 3.
> If he would take fewer shots and allow people like
> Stith, Williams, and even Chris Carr to take more
> shots, that would lighten the load on him.  But it's
> hard to get the ball to anyone when the other ballhog
> (PP) is hoisting up 30 shots a game too.  At this
> rate, I too think the season is over.  25 wins maybe
> 30 if they're lucky.  
> 
> --- OzerskyJA <OzerskyJA@cmog.org> wrote:
> > I respectfully disagree...20 and 10, with good
> > assist and steals numbers
> > thrown in, looks good anywhere and at any time.  And
> > Antoine has made
> > himself into one of the best outside shooters among
> > league big men -- and
> > not just in the first 3 quarters.  The Palacio
> > miracle shot only came as a 
> > result of two clutch 3s from Twon; and he's hit big
> > outside shots in the
> > fourth to keep the team close in several other
> > games.  (not that he doesn't
> > shoot them at inopportune times still.)  
> > 
> > I just feel like Twon is not the problem.  Maybe I'm
> > wrong.  I would say
> > that the Celts biggest problem is this 
> > 
> > LACK OF EASY BASKETS
> > 
> > that's why their shooting % is so low.  As for not
> > having a low post threat,
> > they have a very good one, but he spends too much
> > time out on the perimeter
> > driving on slower forwards -- which isn't a bad
> > idea, if you're reduced to a
> > halfcourt set milking the most out of your prime
> > time scorers.  What hurts
> > the Celts is that nobody is involved, no running big
> > men get rewarded,
> > nobody gets open jumpers or gets to the line....
> > 
> > I find it amazing that the season is already over.
> > 
> > Josh Ozersky	
> > Marketing Communications Specialist 
> > Corning Museum of Glass
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:	Ryan Lee [SMTP:rlee_at_channing@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent:	Tuesday, January 09, 2001 5:01 PM
> > > To:	Celtics@igtc.com
> > > Subject:	First 3 quarters = All Star
> > > 
> > > Based on Walkers first 3 quarters of play every
> > game,
> > > he's a virtual All-Star.  His shot selection is
> > > usually good and he lets the game come to him...
> > until
> > > the fourth period.  For some reason as soon as the
> > > whistle blows for the last quarter, his head
> > swells up
> > > to melonsized proportions and he feels the need to
> > be
> > > the hero.  He'll force up a low post shot or chuck
> > up
> > > 20 3's in 2 minutes (case in point last night vs
> > > Portland).   What is aggravating is that he's such
> > a
> > > impatient ballhog in the final period that he
> > negates
> > > whatever good work he has done earlier.  His stats
> > > look good as usual but they don't show the entire
> > > story in that he produces most of those numbers in
> > the
> > > first 3 quarters.  I don't know if it's because
> > his
> > > flabby ass runs out of gas in the 4th or maybe he
> > just
> > > can't handle the pressure when teams turn it up. 
> > > Walker has shown time and time again this season
> > that
> > > he will ruin his own team in the closing minutes
> > of a
> > > game (OT loss to New York, last night vs Portland,
> > any
> > > game that's close).  Toine should realize he is
> > still
> > > an unfinished product and should hit the treadmill
> > and
> > > shoot 500 jumpers daily (or should I say set shots
> > > since he has no leaping ability).  As for Walker
> > > improving this season...he was hot the first month
> > or
> > > two of the season but his shooting as been horrid
> > the
> > > past month or so.  His 3's are not falling anymore
> > yet
> > > he still jacks them up relentlessly, he still
> > moans
> > > and bitches about every call (last night vs
> > Portland),
> > > he still averages almost 4 turnovers a game, he
> > still
> > > gets blocked 4 or 5 times every game, and he still
> > > doesn't have a bonafide jump shot.  Some
> > improvement. 
> > > I think his numbers only look good this season
> > because
> > > all the good forwards have gone West.  
> > > 
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