Thanks for this enlightening tidbit!!! Cecil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Forant" <dforant1@nycap.rr.com> To: "Celtics Emai List" <Celtics@igtc.com> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 4:57 AM Subject: Envelope Channels > I have found envelope channels show the configuration of cup and handles > well. > > DanF