Re: Magic Want To Package Their 3 Firsts For A Top Five Pick

["John Lyell" <johnlyell@hotmail.com>]

I would consider moving a pick for Bibby or Rahim or Walker and a pick for
both. We are not going to get two players like this at 10-11.  If we could
land Rahim, Bibby & a Diop , Randolph or Cisse and maybe a Arenas, Jefferson
with the Utah pick I think this would make us a much deeper team with
improved chemistry.

Bibby
Pierce, Arenas ? Jefferson?
Rahim
Randolph?  Cisse?
VP/Battie/Blount




----- Original Message -----
From: "Way Of The Ray" <wayray@ix.netcom.com>
Cc: <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Magic Want To Package Their 3 Firsts For A Top Five Pick


> "Berry, Mark S" wrote:
>
> > This is the dumbest piece of "news" I've seen in a long time. Of course
the
> > Magic want a top-five pick. So do we all. The Celts would gladly trade
10,
> > 11 and 21 for a top five pick. It ain't happenin'.
>
> True, true, but I can think of one team, that might be interested,
> and that's Vancouver, because they want to dump Reeves, and
> they need multiple draft choices.  Vancouver is such an enticing
> team to trade with: Shareef, Bibby, Reeves, a top five pick, Dickerson,
> Swift...
>
> Really, the Grizzlies have everything the Celtics need from point guards
to
> power forwards to centers to shooting guards to scorers.
>
> The C's and Vancouver should get together on a mega
> deal. Draft choices, Walker, Pot; everyone but Pierce. Make a
> big splash, Pond and Wallace. Okay, it's not happening, but
> Wallace needs to do the telemarketer thing with the Grizz,
> and just hound them into a deal.
>
>
> > Teams rarely trade down
> > in the NBA, and certainly not without a legit player to make it
attractive.
>
> True, true. However, the C's might be able to move in the 6 - 8
> range, by packaging two of their picks. 10 & 11 for (6-8) that's
> not out of the realm of possibilities.
>
> >
> > As I recall, the Magic and Bulls were offering multiple lottery picks to
> > move up just a couple of spots last year, and couldn't find a taker.
>
> However, there have been moves upwards in the past drafts.
> Dallas traded up for Nowitzki, and Milwaukee got
> Pryzbilla from Houston.
>
>
> > Now,
> > I'm with Joe H. in his thinking that the Celts would be wise to discuss
a
> > Walker-for-top-three pick. You just don't get many chances at
franchise-type
> > big men, and if Walker (or even Pierce for that matter) can land you a
Ming,
> > Curry or Kwame Brown (maybe Eddie Griffin), you do that deal.
>
> > As for the draft in general, like it or not, we'd better start thinking
of
> > it as a "delayed reaction" kind of thing. If the Celts draft a
high-schooler
> > like Dasagna Diop, for example, just think of his first year (maybe two)
as
> > his college seasons. He's not here, he's off at Duke polishing his game.
> > Year 3 is his "rookie" year when he breaks into the rotation. It's the
only
> > way to think of the draft these days. If teams go into it looking for
the
> > quick fix, they're following the road to ruin.
> >
>
> Diop. Diop. Diop. You're too Diop happy. All the quality centers --
> with far and few exceptions -- get chosen in the top five picks
> of every draft. Any center there for the Celtics is likely to be just
> average. They'd be better using the 21st pick on the best
> center available.
> Ray
>
>
> >
> > Also, forget Gary Payton. His best years are behind him and he would
cost
> > you Walker or Pierce. I'm not opposed to making a big trade, but it
needs to
> > be for a guy who will be contributing to this team when it's ready to
> > contend-and that's four or five years away.
> >
> > Finally, I find it amusing that in all of the Boston media coverage of
> > O'Brien's hiring, they never mention what happened at the University of
> > Dayton. They mentioned his first season there, when they won 20 games,
but
> > they completely ignore the devastation of the rest of his tenure there.
He
> > left that program a wasteland. Now, maybe he's a great pro coach, but
don't
> > you think any responsible journalist would at least point out that this
guy
> > has a coaching track record beyond 24-24 over the past three months?
> >
> > Mark
>
>