Re: HUMILIATING!

["John Lyell" <johnlyell@hotmail.com>]

I agree. He wanted and was given full control, so he can't blame anyone else
for the decisions made. Unless we up the level of our performance for a
considerable period, Pitino, Walker and maybe Pierce will all be gone at
year end. That is if we can get someone to take a contract like Walker's.

It has been obvious for years to many of us that the press just won't work
in the NBA against good teams. College philosophies have proven to be
useless in the NBA. Ask Tarkanian, Westhead, Calipari, and add Pitino to the
list. Too bad we passed on Cowens and Brown.

Cross our fingers for landing Eddie Griffin and maybe Heywood, Chandler or
Curry, or make a move for a PROVEN veteran if there is such a thing these
days.


John







----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Griffin" <mgriffin@rillc.com>
To: "Dan Forant" <dforant1@nycap.rr.com>; <celtics@igloo.igtc.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 7:16 AM
Subject: RE: HUMILIATING!


> Anyone catch Barkley's take at halftime on TNT during the Lakers/Blazer's
> show.
>
> Quote: "The Celtics aren't very good.  I thought Walker would be one of
the
> best power forwards in the game now.  Pierce could be one of the better
> small forwards.  That's all they have though."
>
> Kenny Smith: "If you play the press in the NBA, good guards will beat the
> press everytime.  And if you do play the press, you have to have the
talent
> and the Celtics don't have that."
>
> More on the press from kenny: "When the guards beat the press then the
rest
> of the team has to help and recover and this leads to easy shots and
> inferior rebounding by the Celtics because they are always trying to
recover
> when the press is beaten.  So the system doesn't work without the right
> talent".
>
> Barkley:"Like I said, Kenny, they aren't very good.  They have a couple of
> good players though so they are only a couple of players away from being
> very good: Bird, McHale, Parish....."
>
> Host,Smith,Barkley: (Laughter).
>
>
> This will be the game that is the nail in the coffin for Pitino - he has
now
> made up his mind to leave.
>
> For the record, I believe his defensive scheme is partly to blame and he
> doesn't have the necessary athleticism to play the trap.  His best trap
> players aren't very good offensive players and his best offensive players
> are terrible trap players.  But Rick has had COMPLETE control and if you
are
> going to live and die by the press you would have NEVER traded for V.
>
> I think this current squad would actually have a better record under a
> Cowens or even a Del Harris or someone like that.
>
> I think the board can almost focus on the draft and who the next coach
will
> be.  Homers might say it was only one game but it was more than one game.
>
> Thanks for the effort, Pitino.
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-celtics@igtc.com [mailto:owner-celtics@igtc.com]On Behalf Of
> > Dan Forant
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 6:19 AM
> > To: celtics@igloo.igtc.com
> > Subject: HUMILIATING!
> >
> >
> > Without a doubt a humiliating defeat, this is one we'll not forget for
> > awhile. I said before it could get worse. A ship without a rudder is
> > without direction. Pitino should be fired now, not tomorrow, now. Get
> > another coach now, so what little enthusiasm the team has can be saved
and
> > built upon. Pitino pulled Walker and Pierce along with Battie with 6 min
> > left in the 4th. He should have left them in. They belonged in the game
> > regardless of embarrassment. This team carrying on a mutiny.
> > Pierce 0 fg's,
> > 2 boards, Walker 2 boards, 6 to's. Let's see now how funny this list is
> > now. Can't wait for the excuses.
> >
> > Dan
> >
>
>