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Re: Celt's bench: Was "How could Antoine..."



I think Griffin will be sent down when Fortson returns
and he will be the glue to hold that second unit
together.  I think a big part of their recent poor
performance though has to do with Dana's bad point
guard play.  Of the bench players, the only one who
can get his own shot is Williams.  Dana is still
getting over his grandmother's death.  That may sound
weak, but that's the way it is.  You ought to bear in
mind that for many black people, a grandmother is
often mother, father, and both grandparents rolled up
into one, and not just a nice old lady that lives in
florida and sends you a fruitcake once in a while.  I
don't know if this is the case with Dana, but it would
explain a lot.  Kill the Cavs!

--- Dan Forant <dforant1@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> I think my point was but didn't show in the post is
> the substitution
> pattern isn't doing these bench players justice.
> They should be blended in
> with the regulars instead of thrown to the wolves.
> These are Tommy H's
> sentiments and he's my Moses.
> 
> At 12:06 PM 11/16/99 +0100, you wrote:
> >Dan Forant wrote:
> >
> >> Don't ask these question from George Bush. You
> don't have to be a sportsman
> >> to see Battie, McCarty, Barros, Eric Williams
> cannot perform and look bad
> >> to boot. 2 of 4 are projects, the other 2
> wouldn't be on a good team. We'll
> >> kill Anderson before half the season is up and go
> downhill from there. Last
> >> glimmer of hope on this list is Fortson, I don't
> buy into that.
> >
> >C'mon, Dan. I truly enjoy reading your posts
> because you go to such extreme
> >reactions from one game to the next (the Celtics
> are pretty great....the
> Celtics
> >totally suck). BTW, I fully agree with George W
> Bush that "Waltah" isn't the
> >current president of Pakistan, but that he should
> be praised for taking
> power in
> >a coup d'Etat. :-)
> >
> >The salient point is that all four guys you mention
> above would have (or did)
> >start on Pitino's 36-win team. They represent a
> huge improvement over the
> bench
> >of the last two years. The 3-20 shooting game is a
> fluke. Nothing more,
> nothing
> >less. Really.
> >
> >What Pitino needs to determine is whether or not
> his bench rotation is
> working.
> >You shouldn't have five guys who can't pass, much
> less rebound or defend
> >effectively at the position they are assigned to
> play. I wish I could
> remember
> >the last time I saw any of those four guys (plus
> Cheaney) make a memorable
> or at
> >least an intelligent pass (maybe McCarty). That's
> sad.
> >
> >As you know I love Pitino's personnel moves over
> the past twelve months,
> but his
> >two most recent moves seem recklessly casual and
> even stupid given our
> needs. He
> >has capped out the team for the season by signing
> Doug "Female Gonad"
> Ovary and
> >Marty Conlon without so much as a tryout. I
> wouldn't make this criticism (the
> >"not even a tryout" part) if these were solid
> veterans way past their
> prime, but
> >these guys never even had a prime.
> >
> >In the end Pitino MUST have had a good reason based
> on watching his team
> practice
> >twice a day, but I think a lot of fans would be
> more patient with the growing
> >pains of Wayne Turner because of his exhibition
> season defense, hustle and
> >passing and Eric Washington's (did he EVEN get a
> chance?) defense and
> shooting,
> >than the two permanent DNP-CD's that Pitino signed
> (Ovaltine, Conlon).
> >
> >Wayne Turner had stage fright in his first game,
> and now he's gone. I
> think we
> >all sense what it feels like to have the ball
> stripped bringing it upcourt
> (with
> >your hometown friends watching) and to subsequently
> lose all confidence
> and fall
> >apart for a finite amount of time (usually the
> length of a game or at
> least the
> >half). Then you usually wisen up and put the
> mistakes behind you.
> >
> >I'm sure by this point in the season that Turner
> would be doing a little
> better
> >than Overhill's 0 assists or Conlon's 0 rebounds.
> The Celtics bench now looks
> >likes like it could use a team chemistry player
> like Turner....someone
> whose unit
> >always seems to score more points than the
> opposition while he's on the
> floor,
> >even if he looks like the weakest link out there.
> >
> >I guess we all kind of overrated him. Obviously,
> Pitino MUST have had a good
> >reason, considering how familiar he was with the
> kid and how much it had
> to hurt
> >the hometown kid to be told such stunning news one
> week into the season. I
> love
> >BTW that he was a graduate of "Beaver Country Day
> School". What a great name
> >(good school academically, also).
> >
> >--------
> >
> >
> 
> 


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