Re: Aldridge's rumor

[Gregory Hurst <gh18@juno.com>]

Is this a Samaki Walker to Seattle after the Mercer trade or Antoine
Walker for Baker? 


Greg
gh18@juno.com


>> >  I was just watching NBA Today on ESPN and David Aldrige said that 
>the
>3
>> > way deal would go like this
>> > >
>> > >  Seattle: Walker
>> > >  Bulls: Shintzus, Ellison
>> > >  Celtics:  Baker
>> 
>> Why is this latest iteration even referred to by Aldridge as a 3-way 
>deal
>(isn't
>> it just a pair of 2-way trades)!?
>> 
>> Relocating Duh-wayne and Pervis to Chicago fails to resolve the main
>issue of
>> why Vin Baker would suddenly green light a sign-and-trade at around 
>4
>million
>> dollars (Walker's maximum trade cap figure). That's less than Vitaly
>Potapenko
>> money. Even Samaki Walker turned down a contract offer at that price
>(probably a
>> dumb move in his case).
>> 
>> I doubt trading Ellison will clear cap space to add to Vinnie's 
>bottom
>line,
>> since the Celts already are at least 3 million over next year's cap 
>as it
>is. As
>> for Shi-tzu, he basically has only a two-month playing contract for 
>next
>season.
>> 
>> If Vin Baker's actually willing to settle at around four million 
>dollars,
>then
>> you'd think GM Wally Walker would just as soon re-sign him in 
>Seattle for
>that
>> kind of money or a bit more. This trade makes no sense! 
>Incidentally, it
>> wouldn't make any more sense cap-wise even if you replaced Antoine
>Walker's name
>> with that of Ron Mercer.
>> 
>> Maybe my logic or math is flawed. Please someone correct me if I'm 
>wrong!
> 
>
>Joe,
>
>Its not your math or logic that is flawed, its the logic of the whole 
>NBA
>salary cap system. The reason dumping Ellison and Schintzius would 
>help in
>any 3-way (or double-2-way?) is that their salaries slots could then 
>be
>used by the Cs in a trade (and I also thought in signing FAs, but I
>certainly could be mistaken). For example, as reported at NBAtalk.com 
>(from
>the Indanapolis Star News 7/27/99):
>
>>>The Pacers are over the salary cap of $34 million, but have Antonio
>Davis's salary next season, $4.5 million, to use in a trade. They 
>could,
>for example, trade a player making $3 million for one making $7.5
>million.<<
>
>In other words the Pacers will actually receive Bender's rights AND a 
>$4.5
>mil slot DESPITE being over the cap.
>
>The same rules that would benefit the Pacers would also benefit the
>Celtics. 
>
>The key is trading a player to a team *under* the salary cap (Toronto 
>will
>be as soon as the new fiscal year begins - hence why the long rumored
>Davis-Bender trade couldn't be consummated on draft night). If you 
>trade a
>player to a team under the cap without receiving a signed player in 
>return
>(Indiana only receives Bender's "rights") then you in effect also 
>receive a
>slot equal to the traded salary. In other words, the cap space is
>"conserved" - it doesn't vanish but is exchanged from the
>under-the-cap-team to the over-the-cap-team (for a limited time frame)
>despite the fact that the latter team may still be over the cap.
>
>So dumping Schintzius' and Ellison's salaries on the Bulls would 
>enable the
>Cs to package the resulting slots together to accommodate a trade that
>under other ("normal"?) circumstances could not be made due to the 
>salary
>cap. The Celts would "normally" only be able to receive a player 
>earning
>1/2 of Antoine's salary (due to base year comp; next year the figure 
>would
>be 3/4). That comes to roughly $4.5 mil. However, as in Aldridge's
>scenario, if the Cs send the two aforementioned players to Chicago 
>their
>salaries could then be added to what we could receive back in a trade 
>(I
>think I've heard the numbers at roughly $1.7 mil and $2.8 mil 
>respectively
>but whatever, the principle is the same). Those two salaries added to 
>the
>$4.5 mil we can receive back for Antoine would sum up (if these 
>numbers are
>accurate) to roughly $9 mil - the max that Baker can receive in a new
>contract.
>
>More than a *little* convoluted - eh? Perhaps only a Nostradamus could
>figure out all the possible iterations. . . 
>
>Best of luck dodging the Mir in Paris ;) 
>
>- All the best, Tom Murphy
>

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