Re[6]: VISIONS OF ML CARR...

[Ryan.Lee@parexel.com (Ryan Lee)]

     OK if that's true than I am the king of Siam and have a cup of Larry 
     Bird's stored sweat, Chief's leftover dinner from 1987, a picture of 
     Danny Ainge's 8th grade girlfriend, Brad Lohaus' deed to his house, 
     Marty Conlon's used razor, Kevin McHale's boxer shorts, KC Jones can 
     opener, and Ed Lacerte's Playboy magazine.  Listen I don't really care 
     how much memorabilia you have or how many games you went to, it 
     doesn't make you a bigger fan than anyone else in the group, it just 
     means you have more money than a majority of us.  It is one thing to 
     be ticked off if someone were to say that Bird's career scoring 
     average was less than say Nate "Tiny" Archibald's but to get worked up 
     on an error on who the Celts will be playing is really pathetic.  That 
     being said I am starting to believe all that stuff you said about 
     yourself is true.  My point in my initial letter was that the Celts 
     need to win the next few games against the weaker West teams in order 
     to stay in the playoff race.  How does making an error in who the 
     Celts play (Warriors, Portland) make my statement false?  I suppose 
     the Warriors will be the largest threat in the Celtic's path right?  
     Or because Portland is over .500 the Celts have no chance at them 
     (then how does that explain Chicago, Detroit, Charlotte, LA, New York, 
     etc.)?  Let me pose this question.  Being the "true" Celtic fan you 
     are, which statement is more outrageous?  
     
     1) Pervis Ellison is a better center than Bill Russell ever was.
     
     2) The Celtics will be playing the Lakers next week(when it's actually 
     Golden State).  
     

     If you say that they're both equally offending to you then you are not a
     Celtic fan but actually a Celtic freak who should be locked up in a mental
     ward.  


     R
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Subject: Re: Re[4]: VISIONS OF ML CARR...
Author:  "Greg Odegaard" <gmodegaa@longvred.rmc.com> at Internet
Date:    2/11/98 1:06 PM


Once for all Ryan,
     
I am an Celtic Stockholder.  Even living on the west coast I have attended 
over 100 Celtic games, 17 of which were in Boston.  I attended all the 
dream team games, in the Pre-Olympic tourny in Portland (with Bird, Jordan, 
Magic).  Have 28 books on the team, and its players and history (there are 
only about 50 ever published).  Am over 30, and therefore have actual 
memories of watching Celtic championship games, when Russell was playing! 
(Not the big 3)  Have every Celtic BB card ever published, yes this 
includes the 57 Topps Russell/Cousy, etc.  Have 14 game worn jerseys (1 
each of the Big 3), and 11 pairs of shoes (got the 2nd Bird pair from his 
personally).  Have been to French Lick twice, had lunch with his younger 
brother Eddie.  Have about 400 games (from 79 on)on video.  Signed 
championship balls from 59, 62, 66, 76, 81, 84, 86, and 4 since 86.  Have 
met Bird himself twice, and talked with McHale last year for about 20 
minutes in a hotel lobby before a Blazer game.  Have spoken with Cousy and 
Heinsohn 9 times before games, so often that Bob knows my 6 year old son by 
name (a great human being, the best Celtic ever IMHO).  Met with Russell, 
and a friend who worked for the Sonics at the time, for about 30 minutes 
during the 79 championship series with the Bullets. Own a set of seats and 
a large piece of the Garden floor, signed by over 20 team greats.  Met Red 
at the Celtic offices during my 2nd trip to Boston in 85.
     
My point in all this drivel, is that I have been recognized as a true 
fanatic by my home town newspaper, I know everything there is to know about 
this team (the greatest sports franchise in history, a point I hope we can 
agree on), and have great interest in young kids like you who too want to 
know about my team, but have NO patience for snot nosed punks (who go back 
only 10 years or so, of course you can't help being born so late in life) 
like yourself who think they are long time Celtic fans. I have a good 
friend who goes back to the 50's attending games, while living in Boston. 
My knowledge base and resources are right up there.  The bottom line is I 
have little patience for factual errors, that are critical to the point 
someone is trying make.  
     
Enough said. Dude
     
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