RE: An interesting take on rumored trades.

[John Lyell <Jlyell@concentric.net>]

On Saturday, February 07, 1998 1:26 PM, Shailendra K Mishra 
[SMTP:smishra@ix.netcom.com] wrote:
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> > Cedric Ceballos
>
>    Look for him to go somewhere for draft picks and a waivable chump.
>
>
> Dee Brown for Cedric ?  Cedric could give us another scorer at the 3 spot 
to help A.W.
>
>
> Brent Barry
>
>    Doesn't want to stay in Clipperland, and the Clippers don't want to be
> left empty handed when he leaves. He's almost certainly gone by the trade
> deadline.
>
Same as above, and Barry can spell Chauncy at the point.


> Tom Gugliotta
>
>    *gasp*! Minnesota... trading Googs? But Googs is a stud! Yes, and 
he'll
> command studly dollars in free agency, which leads the Wolves further 
down
> a positively Orlando Magic-esque salary situation, especially when it
> comes time to make Marbury a deal. My guess is they'll deal Googs and 
bite
> the bullet as the price to pay for retaining Kevin Garnett *and* Stephon
> Marbury.
>
> If we are going to give up Knight & Mercer we should at least try for 
Gugliotta !  With The T-wolves beaking the bank on garnett & Marbury, all 
they can afford is some reasonably priced role players.
>


With the rookie talent Cleveland has could we get Sura from them for Brown 
or Minor or  Jones ? Sura's career reminds me a lot of Rex Chapman, quiet 
in the first few years,  who many on the list weren't interested in  when 
he was an FA a few years ago, but now would love to have now, and knows 
Pitino well being neighbors.





















On Saturday, February 07, 1998 1:26 PM, Shailendra K Mishra 
[SMTP:smishra@ix.netcom.com] wrote:
> Here is a very interesting take on the rumoured trades from a post
> rec.sport.basketball.pro. - Mishra
>
> > Well that was articulately worded.
>
> > Anyway, here's a list off the top of my head of
> > players I've heard rumored in various trades this
> > season.  Many of these players are probably no
> > longer on the market, if they were really even
> > on the market to begin with, but this is at least
> > a set of names that have been bandied about.
> > There's more I'm forgetting I'm sure.
>
> > Kenny Anderson
>
>    ... Paul Allen has reportedly offered to pay the balance of what he's
> owed on his Portland contract (many millions for many more years) to send
> him to Toronto for Stoudamire. For his part, Kenny said there's no how, 
no
> way he's ever going to play in Toronto. Ah, the games moody emotional
> multi millionaires play.
>
> > Isaac Austin
>
>    Miami wants to perform some stunning NBA alchemy by transforming an
> over acheiving backup center into Mitch Richmond. The Celtics killed this
> three way trade last time (since it would require Chauncey Billups and 
Ron
> Mercer to go to Sacramento and receive only Jamal Mashburn (!) in return.
>
> > Chauncey Billups
>
>    Reportedly, he's off the trading block,  but we all know how that
> works.
>
> > Marcus Camby
>
>    Anyone who's interested in trading for Marcus Camby should call the
> Boston Celtics. They'll be glad to make a deal for their Marcus Camby...
> his name is Pervis Ellison.
>
> > Elden Campbell
>
>    The most obscenely overpaid Laker since AC Green. Even Hot Rod 
Williams
> wasn't rewarded so generously for being a swing C/PF. I have a strong
> hunch that any deal to ship Elden may have to involve a contract buyout 
of
> some sort.
>
> > Cedric Ceballos
>
>    Look for him to go somewhere for draft picks and a waivable chump.
>
> > Mario Elie
>
>    On again, off again. Rudy T. is said to have bitched long and hard to
> the Rocket's ownership about the effect of trading a solid veteran (not 
to
> mention locker room leader). Mario Elie apologized about bitching about a
> possible trade, and anything could happen, but after the importance of
> Elie was emphasized in Houston, other deals seem more likely.
>
> > Penny Hardaway
>
>    I wouldn't be surprised. One way to look at the Orlando - Penny
> situation is to look at from the viewpoint of ... the Dallas Mavericks.
> New coach (Jim Cleamons / Chuck Daly) isn't jibing with star guard (Jason
> Kidd / Penny Hardaway), and management sits with the coach. Of course,
> Daly has hinted that he might not come back next year, which would make
> any trade of Penny and the resulting Mavericks analogy complete, setting
> the stage for lottery-dom and bitter fans for years to come.
>
> > Eddie Jones
>
>    As long as the Lakers have stopped kidding themselves about getting
> Mitch Richmond for Eddie Jones straight up, this too could possibly
> happen, although this would make kobollhog a starter *shudder*.
>
> > Travis Knight
>
>    He's probably off the block unless the Celtics get a somewhat 
competent
> seven footer in return. Pitino has re-emphasized his assertion (first 
made
> at the news conference where he announced Travis' signing) that it's 
going
> to take time for Travis Knight to bulk up, and play like a center instead
> of a power forward. The Celtics are dreaming of the playoffs, and yet,
> will not die if they don't make them, making a trade of such a malleable
> young prospect of his size and skills unlikely.
>
> > Christian Laettner
>
>    Pete Babcock is burning up the phones as we speak. Whether he seeks to
> actually get something in return for Laettner, or simply scare him into
> playing in his old form, is a matter of speculation left to the casual
> observer.
>
> > Matt Maloney
>
>    His stock has gone down, as have all of his relevant statistics.
> Sophmore slump, perhaps.
>
> > Antonio McDyess
>
>    Earlier in the season, the McDyess experiment wasn't working out. His
> minutes were erratic, and his play inconsistent. That's all changed, and
> both parties seem to be happy. Ceballos is almost certainly gone, but I
> wouldn't be surprised if Phoenix (who will be one of the teams with the
> most to spend on free agents this summer) retains his services for the
> long haul.
>
> > Tracy Mc Grady
>
>    Ix-nay on the ust-bay. Once the second coming of Kevin Garnett, now he
> looks like the second coming of...
>
> > Jermaine O'Neal
>
>    Yep.
>
> > Anthony Peeler
>
>    Anthony Peeler probably wrecked his trade value by his public crybaby
> act in Vancouver. Trade ultimatums rarely work out (unless you're Charles
> Barkley). Just ask...
>
> > Scottie Pippen
>
>    This was almost too convenient, Larry :) Chicago will never get enough
> to replace him (not to mention what they want for him.. this summer they
> wanted Boston's #3, #6 AND Antoine Walker for the privilige of less than
> an entire season of Schattie). Scottie will stay until the end of the
> year, and quite possibly, stay right were he is signing multiple one year
> jordon type contracts for huge money.
>
> > Brent Price
>
>    He's got Matt Maloney's problems now.
>
> > Mitch Richmond
>
>    Geoff Petrie has been unequivocal in two assertions: If Mitch is to be
> traded, it will be for a player of equal impact and calibre. He has also
> made his incredible lack of pity for Mitch known as well. Nobody put a 
gun
> to Mitch Richmond's head and made him sign a deal with Sacramento, and
> yet, he did. His agent didn't plead for the right incentives, and as a
> result, he's underpaid in a small market town. Both of these problems are
> Mitch's own damned fault, and not the Kings'. Sacto has made it perfectly
> clear they're willing to hold onto him until the last second of his
> contract expires.
>
> > Dennis Scott
>
>    And yet, who'll take him? His contract his over in the summer, and 
more
> than likely, that's when he'll leave the NBA for good. It was almost
> frightening watching how quickly his stock plummeted (insert RoyNavarrism
> here).
>
> > Joe Smith
>
>    Definitely, but the interest the Celtics had in him earlier has
> apparently waned. Perhaps Denver would deal a pick + chumps?
>
> > Damon Stoudamire
>
>     Almost certainly, but to where? They may have to settle for the
> Houston deal if no other teams will commit to anything more appealing. 
The
> "Kenny Anderson syndrome" doesn't help the Raptors much either.
>
> > Zan Tabak
>
>    There isn't much market for him, really, and that leaves their center
> position in the shaky hands of.. Oliver Miller.
>
> > Nick Van Exel
>
>    Perhaps Nick is a candidate for going to Toronto for Damon Stoudamire.
> His history of erratic play and personality conflicts make him somewhat
> damaged goods at trade time, and yet, he's still an all star, and could
> net some value in return.
>
> > Jayson Williams
>
>    There isn't a snowball's chance in hell that Calipari would trade
> Jayson Williams unless they got a *real* center of at least Vlade Divac
> quality in return. Jayson loves living in Jersey, and now that he and
> JC have smoked the peace pipe, he loves playing in Jersey as well. He
> recently said he's excited to be part of what could possibly wind up 
being
> the best New Jersey Nets team ever, and his enthusiasm has bolstered his
> teammates.
>
> > Walt Williams
>
>     Damaged goods with a bloated contract, diminished stats, and
> increasingly fragile health. The only way he gets traded is if he's part
> of a package trade with Damon Stoudamire.
>
> > Kevin Willis
>
>    Powerful goods with a modest contract, incredible stats, and robust
> good health. The only way he gets traded is if he's part of a package
> trade to get Damon Stoudamire.
>
> > Now for the challenge: Somebody propose a monster
> > trade that would involve every player listed here,
> > work under the salary cap, meet a need of every
> > team involved, and not screw any team over.
>
>    Heh. That's pretty daunting. Instead, I'll add a couple of likely
> candidates that you might have missed:
>
> Brent Barry
>
>    Doesn't want to stay in Clipperland, and the Clippers don't want to be
> left empty handed when he leaves. He's almost certainly gone by the trade
> deadline.
>
> Dee Brown
>
>    He narrowly avoided being traded for a chump to be named below. Rick
> Pitino has been trying like hell to showcase Dee before the trading
> deadline, and his 32 point 8-10 3ptFG night against Dallas probably didn
> t hurt him any.
>
> Pooh Richardson
>
>    I will promise to publically take an oath of fealty to Rick Pitino
> (standard stuff... pledge to stop a bullet for him, etc) if only he will
> promise me that he won't trade any Celtic to take on Pooh Richardson. He
> was nearly traded to Boston for Dee Brown last week, in a trade that
> wouldn't have improved either team's salary cap situation, playing time
> for either players, or team chemistry. In short, a lose-lose deal. Pooh 
is
> a bum, and while Dee is a $3.5 million dollar bench barnacle, he brings
> more to the table than Pooh, who is still a bum (obJudden).
>
> Tom Gugliotta
>
>    *gasp*! Minnesota... trading Googs? But Googs is a stud! Yes, and 
he'll
> command studly dollars in free agency, which leads the Wolves further 
down
> a positively Orlando Magic-esque salary situation, especially when it
> comes time to make Marbury a deal. My guess is they'll deal Googs and 
bite
> the bullet as the price to pay for retaining Kevin Garnett *and* Stephon
> Marbury.
>
>
>