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Re: Malone & $20mil
Someone had to score, and rebound, and get steals, and assits, etc.......
It certainly was going to be left to Kukoc, Kerr, or anyone else on that
tremendous bench. Look if Pippen goes somewhere else, I'll be happy to be
incorrect. I wish the best of the guy. I feel bad for any player that has to
player in the shadow of the greatest? player of all time. But from what I saw
when Jordan was not around, I was not impressed. Although he did, score,
rebound, yada yada, where was his team leadership. Jordan scored a ton of
points as well, and what did it get him...63 points in a loss to the C's.
Jordan became a champ when he learned how to lead. You cannot lead your team
in the last few seconds of a game from the bench! Also, what was the cry
baby attempt by Pippen to get traded at the beginning of the last year.
I got so tired of hearing that guy say he wanted to be traded, I knew he was
full of crap. I think he knew that without Jordan, he was lost. But I
finally think that since Jordan is retiring, then he better get the jack while
it is still around.
Shawn
Shawn
Originally from JIm:
>
> At 12:01 PM 8/26/98 -0500, Shawn Roth wrote:
> >Venkat,
> >
> > The NBA's 50 greatest players was a shame. Come on, Shaq?, Pippen?, do
> they
> > really belong in the list of 50 greatest players of all times. Shaq is
> > good, but hasn't won crap, Pippen has at least one championships, but
> is one
> > of the 50 best. Could he have lead a team by himself. Could he have
> scored
> > at will like Jordan? I think that the NBA 50 best list was just for
> pub. I
> > really don't think you can use that list as a reason Pippen shouldn't be
> > trashed.
> <snip>
> > Pippen is important to Jordan, but Jordan is more important to Pippen.
> > Pippen is an average shooting/point/small gaurd/forward.
> <snip>
> If this is true then why did Pippen average more PPG, RPG, APG and
> SPG when Jordan was not around???? He also did this averaging
> 2 less minutes a game!! While still shooting 48% from the field, without
> Jordan to take the pressure off. I guess if you call 20 ppg, 6apg, 7rpg
> and 3 spg average, then please I'll take 5 to go!!
> <snip>
>
> And although he
> > can do all those things well, I still do not look at him in the same class
> > as a Jordan, Bird, Tragic Johnson, or even a Charles Barkley. He can
> not be
> > counted on game in and game out to give 110% effort. His outside shooting
> > is streaky at times, and his attitude sucks. Anyway, that is just my
> > thoughts.
> >
> >Have a good day,
> >
> >Shawn
> >
> >Originally from Sampath, Venkatesh:
> >>
> >> Don't agree, Hart. While it's true that Pippen didn't win the
> >> championship (!) without Jordan, I have no doubt in my mind that a
> >> line-up of Jordan, Paxson, Cartwright and Grant would have had major
> >> difficulties winning a championship as would a line-up of Jordan,
> >> Rodman, Harper and Longley.
> >> I don't know why Pippen keeps getting trashed on this list. He is one of
> >> the 50 best all-time. The defence he played on Mark Jackson during the
> >> conference finals was one of the reasons the Bulls got past the Pacers.
> >> I don't think Jordan keeps insisting Pippen be a part of any team he
> >> plays on because he (Jordan) likes the shape of his (Pippen's) face. In
> >> any case, this is a hypothetical argument and will remain one unless
> >> Pippen goes elsewhere, Jordan stays on with the rest of the Bulls and
> >> there's an NBA season (with or without drug-testing!).
> >>
> >> venkat
> >>
> >> >----------
> >> >From: Sherry & Hart[SMTP:hartleyo@ix.netcom.com]
> >> >Sent: 26 August 1998 11:05
> >> >To: MH348@aol.com
> >> >Cc: celtics@igtc.com
> >> >Subject: Re: Malone & $20mil
> >> >
> >> >MH348@aol.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Jordan didn't excactly carry the Bulls to six titles. If it wasn't for
> >> >>Pippen
> >> >> he wouldn't even have one ring.
> >> >
> >> >I doubt that!
> >> >Jordan without Pippen means Bulls stll win, Bulls still win.
> >> >Pippen without Jordan means Bull lose, Bulls lose.
> >> >Regards,
> >> >Hart
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> JIm
>
> Life is like a grindstone---whether it polishes you or turns
> you to dust, is up to you
>
>