Re: Duncan (was Re: Antoine Walker)

[Adam A Suchocki <Twilight@world.std.com>]

Those stats are not all that impressive - don't get me wrong, he is a very
good player, but 3rd in ACC history is not that big an accomplisment when
you are talking best of all time.  Check Out Bill Walton's stats sometime,
or Alcindar's.  As for big time centers going to a title - Walton, Ewing,
Alcindar all won titles.  Moreover, the only reason Duncan is as high as
he is on  a lot of the career stat lists is for a long time froshmen
didn't play, and more recently, hardly anyone ever plays a senior year.
Quoting things like unanimous all american and player of the year as
making someone the best college center ever is kind of meaningless - do
you really think Walton and Alcindar didn't win the awards by huge margins
also. You claimed Duncan was the best college center of all time, not of
the last ten or fifteen years.  Do be honest, he hasn't come close to Bill
Waltons accomplishments - check out Bill Waltons NCAA Tournament stats -
especially a certain championship game if you want to see true greatness.

Adam


On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Mike Allen wrote:

> First off, 500 sportts writers can't be wrong.  Secondly if you want stats
> and highligths here you go!
> 
> Won the Following awards in 96-97:
> Associated Press
> National Association of Basketball Coaches Player of the Year
> US Basketball Writers Player of the Year
> Naismith and Wooden Awardss as the top college player
> 
> Named UNANIMIOUSLY, TWICE!  to the All-America First Team (Most recent
> player to repeat as a unamimous selection, SHAQ!)
> 
> Won The NABC National Defensive player of the Year for THIRD CONSECUTIVE
> SEASON.
> 
> Ended college career as the First in ACC and second in NCAA history with
> 481 blocked shots, and third in all time in the ACC in rebounds with 1,570.
>  He also became only the 10th player in NCAA division I history to score
> 2000 points and 1500 rebounds.
> 
> As far as stats go.
> 
> In 96-97 he averaged 20.8 Pts had 98 assists and 457 rebounds in 31 games.
> 
> To conclude, how many top rated centres in the last 15 years have lead
> their school to a Championship?  The kid can't be totally blamed for Wake
> Forest's loss, there are 11 other players on the team. 
> ----------
> > From: Robert Brooks <rwbrooks@teleport.com>
> > To: celtics@igtc.COM
> > Subject: Duncan (was Re: Antoine Walker)
> > Date: Monday, September 08, 1997 8:03 PM
> > 
> > Mike wrote:
> > 
> > : Sorry to burst your bubble but, there is absolutely no way that Duncan
> is
> > : going to be traded to us.  The chances of him coming via free agency is
> a
> > : possibility if he doesn't like being the No. 2 big man with the Spurs
> and
> > : if we can cough up enough cash for the greatest college centre to ever
> > : play.
> > 
> > Sorry?  Are you sure you're not just getting caught up in the Duncan
> > hype-machine?  I don't follow the college game closely, so I'm unaware of
> > the historical stats, but was he really a greater college center than
> > Jabbar?  Ewing?  Olajuwon?  Robinson? (and that's just in our
> generation).
> > 
> > Anyone care to provide numbers?
> > 
> > - Rob
>