Re: The Who Mailing List Digest V10 #223

["Felicia G. Herman" <fgh@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 12:53, The Who Mailing List Digest wrote:
Quadrophenia was the record that changed my from someone who listened to
The Who to a Who fanatic.  My then-boyfriend and I went to listen to it
at a friends house, and I got totally absorbed into the experience of
the record - I know I visualized the film that should go along with the
story.

Teen-age angst does not solely belong to the boys - "The Real Me" still
resonates with me. And I consider "Love Reign O'er Me" a personal theme
song.

Felicia
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:53:45 -0500
> From: "Sigel, James J" <james.sigel@xxxxxx>
> Subject: RE:  Bleedin' Quadrophenic
> How do you ladies relate to Quad?  I'm honestly curious.
> 
> Jim in Colorado
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:05:16 -0500
> From: "Sigel, James J" <james.sigel@xxxxxx>
> Subject: But faith is another matter...
> 
> Kevin:
> 
> >Well, I'm glad you see where I've been coming from.
> >
> >I've always had faith in you, Jim.  Got any influence over Keets?  ;-)
> >
> >Kevin in VT
> 
> No, sorry.  She's a free-thinking individual and free from my negative
> influences.  She's too smart to fall for anything I could try to
> influence.  Unless I came up with some sort of wonder product or
> something.
> 
> And since I don't sense any sarcasm (sarcasm?  From this group?
> Noooooo!) in your reply, an honest response is warranted here.  The
> faith principle is reciprocated Kev and has been there all along, from
> my end.  Despite our differences in the past, I know that if you and I
> met up at a bar, we'd be laughing our asses off by closing time and
> having a helluva time.  Although if Mark were there too, I'd probably
> end up beating the living shit out of him by the end of the first round.
> 
> As frightening as it sounds, and I hope you won't need therapy after
> reading this, you and I are very much alike.  Kevin?  Kevin???  Wake up!
> Somebody get a doctor, I think Kevin has fainted!!!!
> 
> Jim in Colorado
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:50:26 -0500
> From: "Sigel, James J" <james.sigel@xxxxxx>
> Subject: The Leaman Principle or Paranoia Self Destroya
> 
> Sally:
> 
> >BTW, in no reality that exists can my first response to Jeff's post,
> >included below, be called a "whine."
> 
> Oh God, not again.  You mean you are actually going to claim innocence
> AGAIN?!?  To loosely quote Billy Shakes, "one calm response doth not a
> balanced person make."  I have an honest question for you, and I'd be
> honored if you would slum with me long enough to answer it.
> 
> Mark, do you ever fess up to ANYTHING you've ever done?  Let me rephrase
> that.  How about, Mark, have you ever not been a "victim"?  I raise the
> question because YOU and ONLY YOU, consistently insult people who
> haven't reached some sort of "Leaman Principle" of approval, insult even
> your allies with your arrogance, and bring this list to its lowest level
> with your constant preaching and politics.  But somehow, as you badger
> us daily with denials of guilt in anything, you still whip up vehement
> hostility with regularity and then walk away after painting yourself as
> some sort of victim.  Help is just a phone call away you know.
> 
> Like most people here, I was rather surprised by Jeff's hostility
> towards Kevin and Scott, but dude - I KNOW why he went after you.  As
> far as your groundless denials goes, if the shit fits buddy, wear it.
> 
> >Now, Jim, further attacks will only serve to further expose yourself to
> the list.
> 
> Expose?  You've raised the bar WAY too high for me to even try to do
> that; it can't be done.  Although if I did expose myself, I hope Jo
> won't press charges!
> 
> Attacks?  Ugh.  I'll make it simple - You commented on something I said.
> I replied to your comment.  No attack was there except in your tiny
> little paranoid mind.  Now let's see here.  I would go to the trouble to
> repost the exchange you call an "attack" but what for?  I fess up to
> insinuating that you were a "whiner".  Okay, let's just say I came right
> out and called you a "whiner".  Fair enough?  So, in response to a
> little criticism (I DARED disagree with the Great Kook), here's how Mark
> the Mature handles it:
> 
> By calling me a "Jeff wannabe".  And we all know how you feel about
> Jeff, so we don't need to explain the insult intended.
> 
> And by calling me:  "Thanks, Jim you unmitigated fool"  Nice one there.
> Did you have to look "unmitigated" up in the Dick-tionary?
> 
> And this is my favorite:  "Oh, and are you jealous of everyone who's
> more intelligent than you are? I mean, that's almost everyone in the
> universe!"  This one is great.  Did you hear that one on the playground
> or did the big kids beat you up again?  I'll stoop to your infantile
> level and answer that.
> 
> No.  I'm jealous of Catherine Zeta Jones' old man, but that's about it.
> You see, it's easy.  Just like someone can't be the "baddest cat in the
> land" because there's always someone tougher out there, one cannot get
> too caught up in competing with people's intellectual levels.  Just like
> the tough-guy concept, there's always someone out there smarter than
> you.  So being jealous over something like that is counter-productive
> and a waste of time and I don't bother with it.
> 
> I know this concept is alien to you, but look it up in your
> dick-tionary; the word is:  humility.  Now, if you could only apply a
> little humility to your own life, then you wouldn't be the
> unconscionable asshole that you are.  Sorry, that's an insult to
> assholes.  I mean the "dick" you are.  There.  That's better.
> 
> Okay your turn Marky.  I'll play along for a couple days but that'll be
> it, so make 'em good!
> 
> Jim in Colorado
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:57:05 -0500
> From: "Sigel, James J" <james.sigel@xxxxxx>
> Subject: RE:  IOW
> 
> Scott:
> 
> >I've always considered IOW to be a ragged Who show.  Still good.  But
> rag-ged.
> 
> I agree with that for sure.  The cd release of the show has a few
> clean-ups in it, regarding Pete's playing and you can pick out some
> really bum notes on the video/DVD.  But it doesn't bother me all that
> much, because for me, The Who were at their best when bordering sloppy.
> Walking the tightrope can to that to a performance and it makes it
> more...I don't know, REAL (?) I guess.
> 
> >Pete is cleanly strumming those chords, with that "lost in rapture"
> look on his face. That's moving.
> 
> And that's as fine a description as I've heard.  "Lost in rapture".
> That's exactly what it is and that's when Pete's at his best.
> 
> Jim in Colorado
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:28:58 -0400
> From: "David Fiderer" <dfid44@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Tour Newz
> 
> Some time after1999, when talk of a new album first began, I believe it
> was Roger who said something to the effect of  "they like to play live
> shows before going in the studio becuase it gives them a chance to find
> their chops gets their creative juices flowing." With a year off between
> live shows, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they played eight or nine
> shows in a three week period and then went into the studio.  David in New
> York From: Sroundtable@xxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: Tour news
> >
> >Why would Pete and Roger start the tour in October when that is when
> they are
> supposed to be
> >working in the studio?  Seems odd,
> 
> Understatement.  If it don't fit....
> 
> >then they will start the tour in earnest in November.
> 
> Considering album efforts can at times take *many* months, the prospect
> of
> fitting a tour in and or around studio time seem to me implausible.
> 
> Last thing The Who needs is a rushed album.
> 
> Kevin in VT
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:16:27 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Anna Mormack <carrieanne79@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Exquisitely Pissed - The Who Game
> 
> 1. "love is rough"
> "The Good's Gone"
> 
> 3. "it's getting late"
> "Early Morning Cold Taxi"?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 17:15:49 EDT
> From: SicilianMother@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Bleedin' Quadrophenic
> 
> I thought it was the goings on, on the list, that was making me sick, but it 
> turns out I have a nasty flu bug.
> 
> But, since the kids are playing and out of my hair, I will respond to Jim's 
> question stated below:
> 
> In a message dated 07/17/2003 9:55:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
> james.sigel@xxxxxx writes:
> 
> 
> > How do you ladies relate to Quad?  I'm honestly curious.
> > Jim,
> > 
> > I too, was 12-13 when I was introduced to Quadrophenia.  But, I feel like 
> > even at that young age, I had a strong understanding of what it was about.  I 
> > feel this because I still feel and understand it the same way as I did during 
> > those young years of mine.
> > 
> > I was a popular but troubled young lady who was rebelling to the nines.  
> > Whiskey, pot, cigarettes, some pills and sex where the things that kept me 
> > occupied during that time <even with that I was an honor student, head cheerleader 
> > and very active in local film and theatre projects>.  When I think of 
> > Quadrophenia during those days and how it effected me, I remember a sunny summer 
> > day and my best friend riding with me on the handle bars laughing, drunk and 
> > looking for "leapers".   
> > 
> > During my private times, with my Who music, specifically Quadrophenia, I 
> > remember completely identifying with the concept of 4 personalities within 
> > myself. I also matched them up with the personalities of the members of the Who, 
> > each having there own song or "theme".
> > 
> > I guess there is one song that I can completely relate  with now, more then 
> > when I was younger and that is......"Can you see the real me?"........"I went 
> > back to my doctor, to get another shrink (and "mother, I said I'm crazy ma 
> > help me!" and "Preacher, full of lies and hate")......those are places I have 
> > searched for answers as to why I am who I am, feel the way I feel, go through 
> > the things I go through and love/hate the way I do. Do you have to be just 
> > like Jimmy to relate to Quadrophenia?  I don't think so.   I want to fit in 
> > and feel "normal", the same way Jimmy (Pete) wants to. But, I think that is 
> > somewhat of a universal desire, for the most part, that we all can relate too. 
> 
> Johanna <who just revealed a tiny yet relevent part of my soul>
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 20:32:26 EDT
> From: Imonecmw@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Exquisitely Pissed - The Who Game
> 
> >>4. "just the same"
> 
> >"The world looks just the same" - Won't Get Fooled Again
> 
> >Someone had to get this ball rolling.
> 
> >Jim M
> 
> "Cut My Hair" includes that phrase as well.
> 
> Cynthia
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:32:52 EDT
> From: SicilianMother@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Who reference
> 
> I am not sure if someone else mentioned this yet, but I just watched a 
> commercial for the H2........and the song they played was Happy Jack.
> 
> Jo
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:41:43 -0400
> From: "Scott Schrade" <schrade@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Exquisitely Pissed - The Who Game
> 
> > > 4. "just the same"
> > "The world looks just the same" - Won't Get Fooled Again
> 
> Right!
> 
> > Someone had to get this ball rolling.
> 
> Appreciate it.
> 
> > "Cut My Hair" includes that phrase as well.
> 
> Shite!  You're right!  Good job.  I didn't think of that one.  Big bag
> of shite for Cynthia.  Enjoy.
> 
> > 1. "love is rough"
> > "The Good's Gone"
> 
> ".....wheeeeeen I think your love is rough."  The good's gone, Anna.
> And so is that clue.  It's gone forever.  Good job.
> 
> > 3. "it's getting late"
> > "Early Morning Cold Taxi"?
> 
> Nice try, but 3:36 AM is beyond late.  3:36 AM is after-hours territory!
> 
> That leaves:
> 
> 2. "for the band"
> 3. "it's getting late"
> 5. "from the music"
> 
> 
> - - SCHRADE in Akron
> 
> Not explaining science seems to me perverse.  When you're in love,
> you want to tell the world.
>     - Carl Sagan
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 22:00:57 -0400
> From: The Real Me <emerald.eyes@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Exquisitely Pissed - The Who Game
> 
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:41:43 -0400, "Scott Schrade"
> <schrade@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
> >
> >That leaves:
> >
> >2. "for the band"
> 
> Success Story  :-)
> 
> Leslie
> 
> 
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> Every death extinguished a world." -- President George W. Bush, 12/11/2001
> 
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 03:07:12 +0000
> From: "L. Bird" <pkeets@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: NY Post disses Pete
> 
> Repost from TheShout:
> 
> >Today's NY Post hs the Rigby cartoon dissing Pete again. The cartoon 
> >depicts the US Marine Toby (who ever) with the 12 year old girl sitting on 
> >the sofa watching TV. The marine in pajamas, the girl holding her doll. 
> >Pete is in the background holding his guitar, with a t-shirt that has his 
> >name on it. The caption for tha cartoon is Dont worry Toby, they'll never 
> >look for you here.
> 
> I for one have grown tired of Pete getting ragged and linked to others who 
> have had child related scandals. If you all remember, this paper pasted Pete 
> on the cover when he was arrested and buried a very small article when he 
> was cleared. They also neglected to provide any detail to the "cleared" 
> article so that they still implied he was a pedophile. I think every WHO fan 
> should send a note to the editor telling them what we think. There are so 
> many public figures getting little to no press for the things they have 
> done, while Pete is being touted as the PR tool. This is the link to the 
> cartoon,
> www.nypost.com/delonas/delonas.htm
> 
> The info for contacting the paper is
> 
> Online Editorial
> Assistant Managing Editor: cshaw@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> Let's give them the same treatment we gave that radio station for banning 
> the WHO
> 
> 
> Here's what appears to be info on the artist, courtesy of Exile to Whoville:
> 
> >The "artist," and I use that term loosely, is Sean Delonas. I'm guessing - 
> >and I'll try this out - that, based on their server information, his 
> >personal e-mail is sdelonas@xxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> keets
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 05:16:31 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Dereck Evans <delbut98@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: The Who Mailing List Digest V10 #222
> 
> Having been a lister for some time now but only
> contributing when i have something to say, (i prefer
> to fun myself reading you lot)I must say that this,
> vitriolic banter has become quite, no- very boring!
> 
> Who gives a flying fuck who said what first and to
> whom. For the love of God, Just let it go!
> 
> obviously, when i said i only contribute when i have
> something to say,i didn't mean anything interesting!!
> 
> Here is a rumour for you though.
> 
> Pete(and maybe Rog) to re-surface at the Convention in
> September!! My source isn't very reliable though. 
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 08:56:53 -0400
> From: "Schrade, Scott" <sschrade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Exquisitely Pissed - The Who Game
> 
> > > 2. "for the band"
> >
> > Success Story  :-)
> 
> 
> "Six for the tax man, and one for the band."  Correct!
> 
> That leaves:
> 
> 3. "it's getting late"
> 5. "from the music"
> 
> 
> - - SCHRADE in Akron
> 
> I believe in God, only I spell it Nature.
>      - Frank Lloyd Wright
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:22:33 +0300
> From: Anu.Marjukka.Miettinen@xxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Exquisitely Pissed - The Who Game
> 
> > 3. "it's getting late"
> 
> Meanwhile it's getting late at 10 o'clock -- Long Live Rock
> 
> 
> Using work time effectively, :)
> 
> - - --Anu
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:15:11 -0400
> From: "Schrade, Scott" <sschrade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Exquisitely Pissed - The Who Game
> 
> > > 3. "it's getting late"
> >
> > Meanwhile it's getting late at 10 o'clock -- Long Live Rock
> 
> Bingo!  Good job.
> 
> > Using work time effectively, :)
> 
> Hey, so what!  It's Friday!
> 
> Final clue:
> 
> 5. "from the music"
> 
> 
> - - SCHRADE in Akron
> 
> I believe in God, only I spell it Nature.
>      - Frank Lloyd Wright
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:48:20 -0400
> From: Joe Lewinski <lewinski@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Exquisitely Pissed - The Who Game 
> 
> 5.  "from the music"
> 
> Is it "Time Is Passing"?   I'm not quite sure of the lyrics,
> but I believe it's "...from the music, I'll be free."
> 
> Joe in Philly
> 
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:21:05 -0400
> From: "Schrade, Scott" <sschrade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Exquisitely Pissed - The Who Game
> 
> > > 5. "from the music"
> >
> > Is it "Time Is Passing"?   I'm not quite sure of the lyrics,
> > but I believe it's "...from the music, I'll be free."
> 
> 
> No, the lyric you're thinking of is:  "It's only *by* the music, 
> I'll be free."
> 
> 
> - - SCHRADE in Akron
> 
> I believe in God, only I spell it Nature.
>      - Frank Lloyd Wright
> 
> ------------------------------
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