Hi, At PNC I was giving 2 thumbs up to The Ox and I was jumping and shouting... He looked at me with a look like; "hey man, ofcourse I know I'm the best, it's alright" and gave me a thumb back... BTW, had anyone notice the owl on John's stack at PNC??? Cheers, Bjorn Ciggaar http://www.warande.net/~ciggaar ICQ: 42485471 IM: Roughboy905 FAX: +31 208732850