Re: The Great Boot Debate

["Jeremy Craine" <jcraine@hotmail.com>]

i may as well throw in my 2 cents...
(or pence as i'm in europe)

For me in Ireland,it's extremely  difficult to get boots and perhaps it was 
the same for this guy?
maybe it's not,but it is a possibility...
i know i get frustrated when i read other fans webpages listing the 200 
boots they have and i'm lucky to get one a year...
the who aren't so big over here...the boot shops tend to have 300 expertly 
packaged U2 or Oasis...but maybe 2 who cd's in a year!
of course if the guy's in NY city or something then i'm totally wrong and 
apologise...


>From: jeff <jdworks@execpc.com>
>To: TheWho@igtc.com
>Subject: The Great Boot Debate
>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:02:51 -0600
>
>To Chris, and all the rest of you,
>
>Just wanted to throw my two cents in, maybe it'll help:
>
> >>I didn't think that mattered. I see all the time on this very list 
>people
> >>trading and taping things.  It seemed to me that this list is meant for
> >>fans to be objective, mature about their love of The Who.
> >>But to tell me to "Fuck Off and Die" or  to e-mail me and call me "A
> >>wanker"? Is that really necessary?
>
>No, it wasn't. And i want to go on record here pointing out that while i
>strongly disagreed with you, Chris, i (for one) did not call you names. i
>think the people reacting that way were being a tad defensive. Which may be
>because they see it as stealing from Pete, and may be because they just
>paid a hundred bucks for something you want for dirt cheap.
>    Regardless, they overreacted and you shouldn't have posted that query.
>    Here's the thing about tape and CDR trading: it actually KEEPS people
>from making a profit off of bootlegging an artist's music. If i tape a
>show, copy it for a couple bucks a copy, and try to sell it for twenty,
>after a few people get it they'll start trading the recording, and i'm shut
>down as far as profit is concerned. And only hardcore fans buy boots,
>anyway, and hardcore fans are going to be in contact with other hardcore
>fans to trade.
>    Used CDs? Dumb argument. The thing has been paid for, no matter who 
>owns
>it now.It's like a car that way. Garth Brooks wanting to get paid twice for
>two people owning the same recording is like Ford wanting a cut if i sell
>my car to someone. It doesn't work that way.
>    High road? Yeah, i suppose i shouldn't be so self-righteous. Happy now?
>i said it. i certainly have made mix tapes for friends whom i wanted to
>hear certain Who songs. And i've copied CDs, i admit it. But this is a very
>personal Pete thing, dude. You're not ripping off MCA, but Pete himself. i
>can't afford "Lifehouse", but i'm going to buy it when i can! If that's the
>high road, then fine, say what you will. i see a big difference between
>dubbing "Lifehouse" and dubbing a concert boot, but if you don't that's
>your opinion. But this isn't the place for it, because as i said in my
>earlier post, it gives the people who freak out about that sort of thing
>ammunition against the rest of us.
>    Keets' very articulate response to your post was right on about alot of
>things, such as the record companies being on their way out. Some folks i
>know see it as a bad thing. Most of us on this list know the truth about
>record companies and contracts and  such. Seen "My Generation" around
>lately? Think MCA will sell more copies of "BBC" if they make the US and UK
>versions different? How about that huge promotional push all the recent
>Who/Pete material has gotten? The argument i get from people is that
>without record companies, every garage band and townie cover band is on the
>same playing field as the true artists. And i say let them be. The cream
>rises to the top.
>    Anyway Chris, this is generally a good bunch of people, but you stuck
>your foot in your mouth. i wouldn't have said word one if i knew this bunch
>would pounce on you like that. Even if you disagree with me (and the
>others) i hope you can at least understand WHY you got that reaction here.
>
>    peace&anarchy, jeffree (the sadly ecstatic hippypunk)
>
>

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