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I caught Pete in a set in San Diego back around the time "Tommy" was
debuting in La Jolla in advance of going to Broadway. I think it was all
acoustic. It was at a small theatre (formerly for movies when I was a kid
many "Moons" ago) downtown. Needless to say, it was wonderful. He rocked
it as well as at any of the many WHO concerts I had been to.
Mare
At 02:53 PM 5/3/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>The Who Mailing List Digest
> Monday, May 3 1999 Volume 06 : Number 109
>
>
>
>In this issue:
>
> THE WHO & BEER===
> Re: Unplugged Who.
> Oliver Reed dead
> Oliver Reed/The Who&Beer
> Re: Solo Pete as Who, Duran Duran for a moment, Mark the Marxist, and
more stuff
> How do you suppose JAE would sound unplugged?
> Re: THE WHO & BEER & Stuff
> Re:WHOFEST MyrtleBeach
> After the Fire
> Re: The Who In May
> Re: How do you suppose JAE would sound unplugged?
> quotes
> Re: Solo Pete as Who, Duran Duran for a moment, Mark the Marxist, and
more stuff
> Re: Fire/synths/Unplugged
> Re: More stuff
> Odds On E!
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 17:28:38 -0400 (EDT)
>From: KOPTIS@webtv.net (Mark J. Lanzilla)
>Subject: THE WHO & BEER===
>
>OK campers====
>Try this one=====
>We ALL love our WHO......
>Do we agree on our beers???
>Please list your favorites!!!
>and let the Games begin!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 16:34:12 -0500
>From: Alan McKendree <amck@thenetdr.com>
>Subject: Re: Unplugged Who.
>
>At 11:53 -0700 5/2/1999, The Who Mailing List Digest wrote:
>>Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 17:44:55 EDT
>>From: Canute66@aol.com
>>
>>I think John on acoustic bass would be amazing, his playing is based on
>>structure style, not just thunder.
>
>He played some acoustic bass at Roger's Carnegie Hall Daltrey Sings
>Townshend shows, and it was indeed amazing. The more knowledgeable amoung
>us may be able to tell you which song it was (B O'R?).
>
>Alan
>Be sure to read _McKendree: A Burning Novel of Murder and Revenge_
>by Douglas Hirt, ISBN 0-8439-4184-7 (available at www.amazon.com)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 16:36:30 -0500
>From: Alan McKendree <amck@thenetdr.com>
>Subject: Oliver Reed dead
>
>Just heard on the radio, Oliver Reed died at the age of 61 after becoming
>ill after drinking with friends in Malta.
>
>:-(,
>
>Alan
>Be sure to read _McKendree: A Burning Novel of Murder and Revenge_
>by Douglas Hirt, ISBN 0-8439-4184-7 (available at www.amazon.com)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 18:04:00 PDT
>From: "Derick Bhupsingh" <circles01@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Oliver Reed/The Who&Beer
>
>Farewell Ollie, excellent Actor,clowning and drinking buddy of
>our beloved Keith Moon. Warning folks,watch that alcohol level,
>it will get you in the end. Moderation is the key.
>On the subject of beer,I have some favourites which are:
>1. Carling Black Label. (Mostly in the UK)
>2. Lowenbrau
>3. Stella Artois
>4. Harp Lager
>That's all . Regards, Derick.
>
>
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>Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 19:29:31 -0600
>From: Phil McRevis <legalize@xmission.com>
>Subject: Re: Solo Pete as Who, Duran Duran for a moment, Mark the Marxist,
and more stuff
>
>In article <199905011813.OAA0000007137@ns1.sccoast.net>,
> "Mark R. Leaman" <mleaman@sccoast.net> writes:
>
>> It is my own personal belief that BB is about the breakup...[...]
>
>Interesting theory. Just think of the chorus
>
> "say goodbye to the brilliant blues"
>
>Is Pete talking about the Who's "maximum rhythm and blues" as the
>"brilliant blues"? And its just something you're going to have to say
>goodbye to because he's moved on in his life. If true, it would be
>good to point this out to those who've whined about Pete not playing
>electric during the '96 Quad Show and bitching that they don't turn
>the amps up anymore. :-)
>
>- --
><http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/> Legalize Adulthood!
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 01:18:01 EDT
>From: WHOOLIGAN@aol.com
>Subject: How do you suppose JAE would sound unplugged?
>
><<> How do you suppose JAE would sound unplugged? Think he would play an
>> acoustic bass?
>>
>No, not a standup bass (wonder if he's ever even touched one?), but an
>acoustic/electric hollow-body bass guitar like the one he used during
>"Behind Blue Eyes" for the Daltrey Sings Townshend show. What an amazing
>solo he played, and the sound of it was wonderful! I love watching the
>Chieftans' reaction to it--some of them turn around and look at him like
>'wow, that was unbelieveable!'
>
>Bill>>
>
>That solo was Mmmmm , Mmmm good!!
>
>- -Stefani
>Reaching for the remote for a replay :-)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 22:23:15 -0700
>From: "David Cribb" <dcribber@hotbot.com>
>Subject: Re: THE WHO & BEER & Stuff
>
>Being a poor college student with a house off campus, we throw fequent
parties (them thievin' bastards have took my Who's Next remastered). The
beer of no choice is Icehouse. But When it's a social, quiet evening with
just me and some close friends talking it up, it's live Quad in the cd
player and Honey Brown, Sam Adam's Cherry Wheat, and Yuengling in the fridge.
>
>In regrads to Oliver Reed, from Fletcher's Moon bio, sounds like the world
lost a world class partier.
>
>As for all this unplugged businees, I was having a discussion with my
guitar prof about Pete unplugged. He was impressed as he had never heard
it before I brought him a boot of the MSG show. He said, "He really goes
for it" and has a "full, rich sound". I've always wanted Pete to do a
small venue acoustic tour a la Neil Young. Maybe if enough flak is raised,
someone with some influence might hear our din.
>
>
>
>
>- ---
>Be kind, be real, or get out of my face
> -- Pete Townshend
>
>
>
>
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 05:55:16 PDT
>From: "Derick Bhupsingh" <circles01@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re:WHOFEST MyrtleBeach
>
>Hi All, Just a reminder to everyone on the list that this event
>is definately ON this summer. 16th-23rd August. Basically a couple
>dozen people have expressed their interest in meeting so we've
>decided to go ahead with it. There's still plenty of time left
>to think about making the trip and everyone is welcome. So if you
>feel like meeting up with Fellow Who Fans this summer and talking
>WHO in person instead of a computer then this is one opportunity
>to do so.
> Earlier this year,other people were talking about having
>similar events in other places. Is anyone actually doing this ?
>I'd like to hear from you if you are. Also anyone wanting more
>details about MyrtleBeach can contact Mark Leaman or Yours Truly,
>and we'd be glad to help you with information. And perhaps we can
>try some of those beers we've all been listing in between debates !
>Thirsty business all this Whotalk !
>Regards, Derick.
>
>
>>From: "Mark R. Leaman" <mleaman@sccoast.net>
>>To: "Derick Bhupsingh" <circles01@hotmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: Whofest 99
>>Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:36:29 -0400
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi mark, Any more people get in touch with you ?
>>
>>Derick:
>>
>>No one since the two I told you about earlier. How about you?
>>
>>>What's the latest
>>>with this ? By the way, in relation to the coastline/beach, where
>>>exactly are you located ?
>>
>>My house is ten miles west, my store somewhat closer...maybe three
>or four
>>miles, if you could go straight there.
>>
>>Do we have an actual date, Hotel, etc....?
>>
>>No, none of that. Has anyone given you a target week? As it stands, I
>>suppose the best would be the third week of August. That way, it
>won't
>>conflict with people's Labor Day plans.
>>
>>>I'm Still all for it, so even if it's a small affair I'd come.
>>
>>Good! It was only five people last time, and lots of fun. And we may
>pick up
>>some once we set the date. If it doesn't conflict with what people
>have told
>>you, then you can go ahead and announce it. I'm off to buy more CDs
>in
>>Columbia today (and the Tommy DVD if I can find it).
>>
>>To get the motel, I'm going to need a price range so...if you can
>get those
>>who responded to you to give you a ballpark, and consider that
>anywhere near
>>the ocean is likely to be above $50 and more like $75 a night. That
>would be
>>a nice but not fancy place (no room service, but a pool).
>>
>>We can probably tie this up by the end of the week.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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>Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 09:50:45 -0500 (EST)
>From: William Spencer Watson <wswatson@indiana.edu>
>Subject: After the Fire
>
>On Sat, 1 May 1999, Mark R. Leaman wrote:
>
>> When it comes down to it, I also believe After The Fire is about the
>> breakup. Listen to the lyrics and see what you think, and we can discuss
>> that too if anyone is interested.
>
>I doubt it. This song was written specifically to be performed by the Who
>at Live Aid, but I don't think the lyrics are actually about the Who.
>When Pete introduces it during the Deep End concert that was commercially
>released, he says it's about "what was happening in Ethiopia and Africa
>being like a fire, and that what would happen is that the concert would
>put out the fire but it would still smolder, still burn." The question
>is, did Pete intend to give it the double meaning that would relate it to
>the Who's breakup? I doubt he would be callous enough to relate the
>breakup of the Who to suffering and tragedy in Africa.
>
>I don't see anything in the first verse that points to the Who:
>
>I heard a voice askin' "What happens after the fire?"
>And the sound of a breaking window and the scream of a tire.
>And then the sound of a Brixton gun and the scream of a child.
>The night is hot and nothing's gonna stop this gang runnin' wild.
>
>The second verse:
>
>I saw Matt Dillon in black and white; there ain't no color in my memories.
>He rode his brother's old Harley across the TV screen while I was laughing
>at Dom DeLuise.
>I'm sackin' through all my videotapes, I'm crying and I'm joking.
>I gotta stop drinking, I gotta stop thinking, I gotta stop smoking.
>
>I dunno, I don't see anything beyond some kind of statement about
>universal suffering, and maybe his feelings of guilt about living a life
>of luxury while others suffer. I suppose you could tie that ("I gotta
>stop thinking") to the Who in some way, but it seems quite a stretch to
>say it's about the breakup, and I doubt that was his intention. Of
>course, Roger may have chosen to "make" it about the Who, and maybe that's
>why he recorded it. Incidentally, the bit where he rhymes "Dom DeLuise"
>with "memories" just may get my vote for all-time worst Townshend lyric.
>Still, I like the song.
>
>Bill
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 11:23:56 -0400
>From: "Joe Lewinski" <lewinski@icanon.com>
>Subject: Re: The Who In May
>
>Brian:
>
>Well done! I especially like the last picture of Pete. Is he about
>7 or 8 in this shot?
>
>Thanks for your effort.
>
>
>Joe Lewinski
>ICANON Associates, Inc.
>215.653.0754 x 115
>Fax: 215.653.0829
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 08:38:13 PDT
>From: "L. Bird" <pkeets@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: How do you suppose JAE would sound unplugged?
>
>It WAS the standup bass that I was trying to imagine.
>
>keets
>
>>From: WHOOLIGAN@aol.com
>>To: TheWho@igtc.com
>>Subject: How do you suppose JAE would sound unplugged?
>>Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 01:18:01 EDT
>>
>><<> How do you suppose JAE would sound unplugged? Think he would play an
>> > acoustic bass?
>> >
>>No, not a standup bass (wonder if he's ever even touched one?), but an
>>acoustic/electric hollow-body bass guitar like the one he used during
>>"Behind Blue Eyes" for the Daltrey Sings Townshend show. What an amazing
>>solo he played, and the sound of it was wonderful! I love watching the
>>Chieftans' reaction to it--some of them turn around and look at him like
>>'wow, that was unbelieveable!'
>>
>>Bill>>
>>
>>That solo was Mmmmm , Mmmm good!!
>>
>>-Stefani
>>Reaching for the remote for a replay :-)
>>
>
>
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>
>Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 11:27:35 PDT
>From: "L. Bird" <pkeets@hotmail.com>
>Subject: quotes
>
>Repost from another list. I checked out the forum and found a quote along
>the lines of Lifehouse.
>
>keets
>
>
>>Here's an interesting entry into the Ethan Russell discussion forum. The
>>previous post expressed the opinion that The Stones did fine on the "R&R
>>Circus" video and should have released it earlier.
>
>
>>>Re: PETE TOWNSHEND THE WHO
>
>Category: The Web
>From: pete townshend
>Date: 3/5/99
>Time: 3:37:53 PM
>
>Comments
>
>i couldn 't agree more
>
>
>
>>"We were keeping our eye on 1984. When the year came and the prophecy
>>didn't, thoughtful Americans sang softly in praise
>of themselves. The roots of liberal democracy had held...But we had
>forgotten that alongside Orwell's dark vision, there was
>another, slightly older, slightly less well known, equally chilling: Aldous
>Huxley's "Brave New World"....Orwell warns that we
>will be overcome by an externally opposed oppression. But in Huxley's vision
>no Big Brother is required...As he saw it people
>will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo
>their capacities to think. What Orwell feared is those
>who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to
>ban a book for there would be no one who
>wanted to read one...Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley
>feared we would become a trivial culture,
>preoocupied with the equivalent of the feelies, the orgy progy, and the
>centrifugal bumblepuppy...In 1984 Huxley added people
>are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World they are controlled by
>inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that
>what we hate will ruin us. Huxley feared that what we love will ruin us.
>
>- --From the Foreward to Amusing Ourselves to Death - Public Discourse in
the
>Age of Television by Neil Postman Copyright c
>Neil Postman 1985.
>
>
>
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>Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 11:35:14 PDT
>From: "L. Bird" <pkeets@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Solo Pete as Who, Duran Duran for a moment, Mark the Marxist,
and more stuff
>
>>>How do you suppose JAE would sound unplugged? Think he would play an
>>>acoustic bass?
>>
>>Acoustic guitars don't mean you have to have acoustic bass. I personally
>>wanted the boys to go out acoustic (or "unplugged" if you prefer) for the
>>QUAD shows. Just the three of them with no drums. And, IMHO, the acoustic
>>stuff during the encore was better than the QUAD material (as good as it
>>was). WGFA is every bit as powerful acoustic, for instance, and I'll never
>>forget the impressive job Roger did (Raleigh NC) with The Kids Are Alright,
>>both vocally and playing (by himself) on acoustic guitar.
>
>Yeah, they did sound good. Maybe RD will come around to it.
>
>keets
>
>
>
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>Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 11:48:37 PDT
>From: "L. Bird" <pkeets@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Fire/synths/Unplugged
>
>>Someone else beat me to it: it doesn't have to be soft. With Pete, John
>>and a drummer it'd be a nice, moderate volume where he could still belt it
>>out without having to scream his head off. I have no idea if the Who ever
>>considered doing some sort of "unplugged" event, but if they did and Roger
>>was concerned about embarrassing himself, well, I wish he'd have been
>>willing to take the chance.
>
>I read that they (or maybe just RD) got an invitation, back when it was the
>really popular thing to do, and RD said to ask Pete, that his own voice was
>too "heavy" for it. Of course that might have meant he just didn't want to
>do it.
>
>
>keets
>
>
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>Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 13:55:37 PDT
>From: "Jonathan Rhein" <rhein@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: More stuff
>
>William Spencer Watson <wswatson@indiana.edu>
>
>wrote:
>
>>(snip) and Pete's always been better on acoustic than electric.
>
>
>Yeah, right. And John's always been a better french horn player than a bass
>player.
>
>
>/jon
>
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>Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:50:45 -0400
>From: "Robert VanBuskirk" <vankirk@ix.netcom.com>
>Subject: Odds On E!
>
>Hey Friends!
>
>Item 1) Mildly interesting tid-bit here - I just caught a portion of an "E!
>True Hollywood Story" (seems like an oxymoron) about the Sunset Strip, and
>they briefly told of the huge billboards used to advertise new albums, and
>one of the few they showed was "Odds & Sods"!!
>
>That grabbed my attention so I watched the rest of the program. Pretty
>interesting, despite no further "Who" references. Basically deals with the
>decadence of all the stars-with-drugs scene. (Gasp!)
>
>Item 2) Anybody know what Chris Stamp is up to? (And I don't want anybody
>writing back saying 5' 10")
>
>Many thanks!
>
>Rob in Cincy
>
>Be sure to read "McDonald's: The Burning Of Indigestion" by M.McCheese
>
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>
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