In a message dated 97-03-29 16:48:49 EST, you write: << Yup, and he has a good-looking son named Ben, who's in his teens now. (Apparenly he has the Townshend nose, too.) >> I'd say he has a Townshend overbite more than the Townshend nose. And Simon's wife's name is Janie. Amy I've got my eye on that Ben too, Miss yellow