Re: Censor-roundSun Dec 7 14:37:57 PST 1997

[kob1@ix.netcom.com (Kevin B. O'Brien)]

On Fri, 24 May 1996 16:56:04 -0400, mleaman@sccoast.net (Mark Leaman)
wrote:

>BTW, if my Eudora program has such a filter, I haven't seen it. So some of
>us don't have that particular advantage.

It does, however, have a sorting mechanism that can accomplish the
same thing. Just set up a folder for things you don't want to see, and
have all mail from that address sent to this folder. You can delete
the contents of that folder sight unseen. It isn't the least bit
difficult.

>I don't think that anyone's trying to shift blame here, Kevin. I know I'm not.

Hmmm...Fang threatens to get Rich T. fired if he sends another e-mail,
and then *you* went along with the idea that if he gets fired it is
his own fault. Looks like blame shifting to me.

>>Maybe if he threatened to come to your house that might be grounds.
>>But all you have discussed so far is e-mail, and I cannot imagine that
>>receiving e-mail, no matter how lame, warrents the response of trying
>>to get someone fired. What I see so far is the most chilling example
>>of censorship I have yet witnessed anywhere on the Internet in a
>>number of years. And the justification for this is "Trust me?"
>
>Kevin, you misunderstand me. I don't want to send any info to anyone, and I
>said as much. It's not in my nature to air dirty laundry. You, not knowing
>and not really needing to know what I'm speaking of here, are making a
>too-quick assessment. 

This still boils down to "trust me."

>As for trusting me, you can judge my character as you wish from what you
>have seen posted on the Digest (or elsewhere).

For small things I would give you the benefit of the doubt. But you
are asking me to trust that you have grounds getting someone fired
that you do not want anyone else to know about. That is asking rather
a lot.

>I just don't want 14 more EMails about nothing from someone who
>is trying to control my behavior in public. Someone who has no right.
>Actually, no one has the right.

Annoying, perhaps, but scarcely grounds for getting someone fired.
Where do you draw the line? If this doesn't work, are you going to
kill him? There is such a thing as proportionality. If someone is
being a jerk on-line, you flame him. We were all having a good time
doing that before Fang went crazy. That is an appropriate response.

>Hopefully now you understand. No censorship is being attempted by either me
>or WF. Rather, the opposite.

If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...


Kevin B. O'Brien
kob1@ix.netcom.com
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and
the intelligent are full of doubt." Bertrand Russell