I REMEMBER WATCHING THE RUSSEL LED CELTICTS.THE BEST TEAM EVER.ON SUNDAY AFTERNOONS CRIS SHENKEL WAS THE BROADCATER AND IT SEEMS THAT EVERY SUNDAY HAD A RUSSEL-
CHAIMBERLIN MATCH UP.BASKETBALL WAS A TEAM SPORT AND
THE PLAYERS FELT LUCKY TO BE PAID ANYTHING.(NONE OF THIS SO CALLED RESPECT 100MILL THAT A.WALKER IS DEMANDING)
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Subject: The Boston Celtics Mailing List Digest V5 #269
The Boston Celtics Mailing List Digest
Wednesday, July 29 1998 Volume 05 : Number 269
In this issue:
Walker and Others for........
Bird vs. Russell
Re: The Garden is almost gone!
Season summarys
BIRD VS. RUSSELL
Hosting Exchange Students?
Amnesty appeal
Re: Amnesty appeal
USA bask. TV Schedule
Bird vs Russell
Re: USA bask. TV Schedule
Re: Bird vs Russell
On Hoops season review
Re: USA bask. TV Schedule
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:59:55 -0400
From: "Anthony" <nimrod@lamere.net>
Subject: Walker and Others for........
Hey I don't know, this would probably never ever happen, but i think the
Celtics
should trade Antoine, and 3 other monster cappers, for SA's Tim Duncan,
Duncan will be asking a lot like Toine, but we whould get rid of many
sallary destroyers
like dante, knight, and minor,
This would never happen cause sanantonio would never give up duncan,
and i really feel duncan is better than Walker!!! But we can hope can't
we!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Anthony
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 18:44:07 -0400
From: Dan Forant <dforant1@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: Bird vs. Russell
I saw Russell play, and would take Bird. Not by much though.
>Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 18:26:27 -0400
>From: "Noah P. Evans" <ishbak@conknet.com>
>Subject: RE:
>>
>Memories are short. The average fan has little perspective beyond his
>immediate frame of reference. That is how Jordan can be considered the "best
>ever". The idea that anyone can consider Larry Bird better than Bill Russell
>having actually seen Russell play is ludicrous.
>
>Noah
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 20:58:18 EDT
From: DJessen33@aol.com
Subject: Re: The Garden is almost gone!
Al,
Thanks for your perspective on your trip to 'the Garden'. It was interesting
and refreshing....
DJessen33
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 21:04:48 EDT
From: DJessen33@aol.com
Subject: Season summarys
Thread,
I was thinking in the midst of this boring lockout, it would be interesting if
someone could post a summary of each year starting from the first
championship. It would be interesting for me to get other people's
perspectives of the early championships and also rekindle some of the old
memorys. Is this something we have do?
DJessen33
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 21:45:42 -0400
From: "Dorine" <norine@sover.net>
Subject: BIRD VS. RUSSELL
I saw both of them play and I don't think you can make a choice like that.
They were both outstanding players at their own positions, but Russell was
simply awesome, for those of you who never saw him play. And whoever said
Jordan wouldn't have gotten past Russell was correct.
Dorine
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 98 23:46:48 EST
From: JOIITTU@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Hosting Exchange Students?
HOW BIG ARE THE HEARTS OF AMERICANS?
My name is Deborah and I am with a non-profit organization by the
name of Nacel Open Door. We are a very reputable exchange
organization that places students in host homes in the United States.
We need your help because we are at a point where we have
300 students left and three weeks to place them.
We are looking for good, clean, stable, caring, moral environments
for our students to live in for a year or semester beginning the 21st
of August. Traditional or non-traditional families with or without
children may apply. Singles may also apply if your specific
situation meets our requirements of supervision for the student.
All you have to provide is a bed and food for the student and it should
cost you nothing. The students come with ample spending money to pay for
their expenses. Students have good English abilities and can function in an
American High School.
We take care of securing the space for the student at the High School and
speaking with you and your student on a monthly basis at a minimum.
Students may share a room with a same sex sibbling and the relationships that are
formed are life-long.
We have students from Europe, Asia, South America, and the former Soviet.
They are students from sterling families and are normally never a problem.
I have hosted 22 and have not had a problem with one of them. My family has
become so enriched by the experience that I am very happy that I became
involved with the organization 10 years ago. If your child is studying another
language the experience that this provides them is as good as actually living
in another country.
I know that we all have very busy schedules and taking on one more responsibility
would seem impossible. I am the owner of a private school and I never thought that
I could fit it into my schedule but I am so glad that I did. My first was from Croatia and
he has become my son. I have travelled to visit his parents and they have travelled
to visit us. We have become an international family and have benefitted greatly from
the experience.
We cannot offer you any monetary rewards for offering your home but we are prepared
to say thank you by entering your name in a drawing for one $1000 scholarship for every
ten families that host from this email. If you cannot use a scholarship for your child to
travel on one of our programs then we will put your name in a drawing for a pair of
international air tickets to travel to the country of the student that you host.
Depending upon the response that we receive from this email, we may offer more
international air tickets.
There are some restrictions that apply to the travel dates, and we need some advance
notice of when you want to travel but that will all be explained to you in detail.
If you are interested in more information about our program then please contact me
via email or you may call me directly at 888--542-6366. If you have to leave a voice mail,
I will get back to you as soon as possible. Or you can visit our website and send a
request for more info from there. <A HREF="http://www.opkone.com/opendoor">
Click here to visit our site , ...................... </A>
I know that this plea will not fall on deaf ear because the American people are warm,
giving and caring people. If you are just interested in finding more out about this program
feel free to contact us, you are under no obligation and there will be no pressure to do
this. This has to be right for you for it to be right for the student. But I can assure you
that if you do decide to do this that you will not be sorry you did. If the situation just does
not work for you then you are not committed for the entire year or semester. We will be the
safety net to take responsibility for the student and move him to another home.
I thank you for the time that it took to read this email. I hope that I will get an opportunity
to speak to each and everyone of you, and that you have as wonderful of an experience
that I have.
Warmest regards,
Deborah
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:38:33 +0200
From: Joe Hironaka <j.hironaka@unesco.org>
Subject: Amnesty appeal
Human rights abuse is a big deal in many places and countries, so I
bring to list-members attention the following Amnesty International
appeal:
To celebrate the 50th Anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human
Rights, Amnesty International is collecting signatures for a pledge to
support this very important United Nations declaration. Amnesty already
has 3 million signatures (real and virtual) world wide, and wants 8
million (which would by 1% of the world's population). The UN Secretary
General Kofi Annan has already agreed to be present either in person or
live by satellite, if he has to be in New York, to recieve the pledge as
a tangible statement of the people of the world's commitment to an
international agenda of human rights.
The most simple way to add your name to the pledge is to send an email
to udhr50th@amnesty.org.au <mailto:udhr50th@amnesty.org.au> Put YOUR
NAME in the SUBJECT and the following text in the message:
" I support the rights and freedoms in the Universal Declaration of
Human Rights for all people, everywhere. "
* Forward this message to as many people as you can. For further
information, Amnesty International USA is at http://www.amnesty-usa.org/
THANKS EVERYONE
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 05:31:41 PDT
From: "Jim Meninno" <jim_meninno@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Amnesty appeal
>Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:38:33 +0200
>From: Joe Hironaka <j.hironaka@unesco.org>
>To: celtics <celtics@igtc.COM>
>Subject: Amnesty appeal
>
>Amnesty already has 3 million signatures (real and virtual) world wide,
and wants 8 million (which would by 1% of the world's population).
I know things have gotten pretty boring on the list and we have
digressed into the quasi-political at times, but I really don't think
the list is an appropriate forum for something like this. Before you
know it, you can end up with appeals for everything from saving the
whales to collections for a heart for Dan Forant and a brain for Noah.
Otherwise, good luck with you efforts.
Curious math, though. 8 million = 1% of 800 million. Last I heard,
that's some 4 Billion short.
Jim
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:53:08 -0500
From: krai@gis.net
Subject: USA bask. TV Schedule
This also is only mildly Celtics-related (although a lot more than the
previous posts, given that Michael Hawkins, Jimmy Oliver, and Julius Nwosu
are all former Celtics :)), but does anyone know the times and the channels
USA games will be broadcast on from Greece? If you don't know what I'm
talking, never mind.
K. Kveraga
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:01:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: "L. Gordon Associates" <lgordon1@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Bird vs Russell
I don't usually write. I'm stuck here in LaLA Land and just
enjoy reading the posts. However, I must respond
to Bird vs Russell. I am almost 55 years old and Bird is my
hero. My office is full of Bird (and Celtics) memerobilia.
However, Russell is the greatest Celtic ever. He may be the
greatest player to ever play the game. He certainly changed
it forever. No player has ever had the impact on the game that Russell had.
Not Jordan...not Dr.J...not
Chamberlain. He was the best and he was a real hero, too.
I love Bird but my vote goes to Russell.
Regards,
Larry
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:47:45 -0500 (EDT)
From: Shawn Roth <ufpdev!shawnr@uunet.uu.net>
Subject: Re: USA bask. TV Schedule
There will only be 5 games broadcast from Greece. They will be shown on ESPN2,
but only if America makes it to the medal round, times have yet to be
established, but only the gold medal game will be live. I personally think this
is a bunch of bullsh*t, but that is just my humble opinion.
I would much rather see a bunch of our second tier players prove to the rest of
the world whose is the best basketball nation on earth.
Shawn Roth
Originally from uunet!igtc.COM!owner-celtics:
>
> This also is only mildly Celtics-related (although a lot more than the
> previous posts, given that Michael Hawkins, Jimmy Oliver, and Julius Nwosu
> are all former Celtics :)), but does anyone know the times and the channels
> USA games will be broadcast on from Greece? If you don't know what I'm
> talking, never mind.
>
> K. Kveraga
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 13:54:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Josh Ozersky <josh_ozersky@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bird vs Russell
Maybe it would help if some of you veteran fans described what
Russell's game was like. I've seen footage of him teaching defense,
but he was already retired. Is it true that he waited until a guy
shot to leave his feet? What was he like on offense? Is there
anybody today who reminds you of parts of his game? How could
somebody get 55 rebounds in a game? What was his passing like?
(this is one I've always wondered about)
Let's hear some stories!
Josh
- ---"L. Gordon Associates" wrote:
>
> I don't usually write. I'm stuck here in LaLA Land
and just
> enjoy reading the posts. However, I must respond
> to Bird vs Russell. I am almost 55 years old and
Bird is my
> hero. My office is full of Bird (and Celtics) memerobilia.
> However, Russell is the greatest Celtic ever. He
may be the
> greatest player to ever play the game. He certainly
changed
> it forever. No player has ever had the impact on the game that
Russell had.
> Not Jordan...not Dr.J...not
> Chamberlain. He was the best and he was a real
hero, too.
>
> I love Bird but my vote goes to Russell.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Larry
>
>
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:53:00 -0700
From: "Greg Odegaard" <gmodegaa@longvred.rmc.com>
Subject: On Hoops season review
The On hoops folks always have a interesting spin to the stories. Of
course this should be interesting to us all:
"Boston
36-46 Regular Season
Pitino worked his magic once again
Looking Back - After all the ingloriousness of the Cs' ML Carr experiment,
it once again became fashionable to be a Boston Celtics fan. Rick Pitino
came with a huge reputation and an equally as massive salary, and he was
given a free hand to re-work this team in whatever way he saw fit. This
didn't make him immune to criticism, but it did make the Celtics much more
talented, enthusiastic, Kentuckified, and, right from the first game of the
season, successful. The C's were only 2 games below .500 at the turn of the
calendar year, attesting to how far they've come since the 15 win campaign
of just 1 season ago.
MVP - Antoine Walker. A wonderful young talent who only has to improve his
shooting percentages and his temperament, the world is at Antoine's feet.
DPY - Andrew DeClercq. We could give it to Ron Mercer's quick hands, but
DeClercq's commitment and drive was the closest Boston had to a much needed
interior enforcer.
MIP - Walter McCarty. When Pitino gave Chris Mills away, we thought this
was a terrible move, but McCarty's work ethic and lithe body quickly
brought us round.
Looking Ahead - So many teams are vying for the title of "most talented
young lineup in the league", but Boston are right up there, especially
considering the addition of Paul Pierce via the draft. The Celtics need to
get bigger and tougher in the paint, but everywhere else, they've got all
the tools, both mental and physical, to make Pitino's system work. Now, as
long as they can re-sign Antoine, who needs to be treated very very
carefully, the re-building of a new Celtics dynasty doesn't seem that far
away."
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 18:15:31 -0500
From: krai <krai@gis.net>
Subject: Re: USA bask. TV Schedule
Shawn Roth wrote:
>
> There will only be 5 games broadcast from Greece. They will be shown on ESPN2,
> but only if America makes it to the medal round, times have yet to be
> established, but only the gold medal game will be live. I personally think this
> is a bunch of bullsh*t, but that is just my humble opinion.
Well, Turner and the National Bulls Corporation dumped Dream Team IV (:>) like
they were lepers or something. And ESPN...Well, either they think that the
Strongest Man competition deserves more airtime, or there are contractual
restrictions we're not aware of. Does anybody know/care?
> I would much rather see a bunch of our second tier players prove to the rest of
> the world whose is the best basketball nation on earth.
I don't think there's any need to prove that. Proving that a bunch of NBA
rejects, CBA and college types can beat the better (albeit weakened)
international teams for the gold is what it is. On the other hand, most of the
better international players, particularly those with current NBA affiliations,
are not playing either: Divac, Longley, Sabonis, Ilgauskas, Stojakovic,
Danilovic et al. There's little doubt that a full-strength Yugoslavia (Greater
Serbia), Croatia, or Lithuania would make toast of Jimmy Oliver & Co.(Celtic
content!).
Still, I think it would be more fun to watch this team defend their
professional/national pride than be exposed to the endless hype, pledges of
allegiance to sportswear empires, dunkoramas, elbowing of 130lb Angolans, and
crotch grabbing of previous Nightmare Teams.
K. Kveraga
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