Re: Bill and Hillary '96 OR inmate numbers 00754932 and 00754933!

M.L.

>You would write this at a time when MY time is limited and my monitor is
>going in the shop! But in any case:
>I've got news for ya, pal. Just because one person breaks a law, a friend or
>a partner or even a spouse, that does in no way mean that another was
>involved. If I break the speed limit, can the Police arrest my wife?
>So this reasoning is faulty.

That the Clinton's friends are all in hot water doesn't directly implicate
Bill and Hillary - that much we agree on.  But the fact that many of their
closest friends/advisors are in jail, going to jail, on trial, indicted,
about to be indicted, been accused of lying, been named an unindicted
co-conspiritor and done time for drug dealing MAY say something about the
Clinton's themselves.  Hang around with and associate closely with scum and
it's tough to portray yourselves as lilly white.  
   
>>2 -We have found that (while still in Arkansas) Hillary was able to help
>keep up the payments on Whitewater as a result of parlaying a $1,000.
investment
>>in cattle futures into $100,000.  The White House response once this came
to
>>light was "She read the Wall Street Journal."   This from the lady who
while
>>campaigning with her husband in '92 railed against "the decade of greed"
>>presided over by Reagan/Bush.  Hipocrite?  You be the judge.

>Wait a minute now. Are you trying to say that she's not allowed to make
>money just because she derides the decade of greed? I'm in business and make
>money, yet I find what Reagan did and the results distasteful. Apples and
>oranges.
>Besides, this has NOTHING to do with any wrongdoing. There is no evidence
>that she did anything wrong in that investment...just innuendo.

I'm NOT saying she's not allowed to make money (I'm the biggest capitalist
around).
What I'm saying is don't represent yourselves as our moral auditors and
preach about the evils of greed when running for President and then have us
find out that you profited from your postion as the soon-to-be Gov.'s wife
and made a killing in the commodities market.  Oh yeah, and once your
 "caught" own up to it.  (Her assertion that "she read the WSJ" would be
laughable if it didn't remind us so much of Bill's 6 or 7 tortured
explanations on avoiding the draft.)  If the hipocrisy doesn't hit you smack
in the face I can't help you.

>>3 - The McDougals and Gov. Tucker are all about to go to jail (unless
>>somebody starts singing) in the wake of the first Whitewater related trial.
>> The McDougals were the Clinton's business partners.  Nothing found yet???

>Anything about the Clintons yet? See answer # 1 and try harder. Now YOU
>sound like Rush.

I'll take the part about sounding like Rush as a compliment.  
.  
>>4 - Bill Clinton's closest friend and advisor Bruce Linsday (who also ran
>his gubenatorial campaigns in Ark.) is now in very hot water also.

Can you say "unindicted co-conspirator"? Bruce Lindsay is a serious FOB and,
like Web Hubbell, may soon be somebody's "girl."

>>5 - Hillary's law firm records (showing her involvement in case that smacks
>>of conflict of interest) turn up in the first family's living quarters in
>the White House over 2 years after they had been subpoenaed and after the
>>Clinton's had claimed they couldn't find them!!! 

>Yeah, and they had her fingerprints on them...big deal. They were her
>records! First of all, she most likely didn't handle them when they were in
>the White House. Secondly, they're far from damning so why bother to hide
>them? If they were damning, they never would have shown up. No, the most
>likely explanation is that they were lost or hidden by an aide who thought
>he/she was doing someone a favor. Using your logic, I suppose.

AHAH, the butler did it defense!  Hillary should have come clean with the
billing records long ago.  She's forgotten rule number one in politics - When
you find yourself in a hole, stop digging!  The truth and the Clinton's meet
far less frequently than they ought to.

>>6 - In the wake of Foster's death (The Clinton's personal lawyer on matters
>>involving Whitewater) on one of the most traumatic days of their lives, 3
of
>>Hillary's closest aides developed amnesia in trying to recall events
>>surrounding the handling of Foster's files concerning Whitewater.  It
seemed
>>nobody could recall a thing about the chain of command of the files,
>>telephone calls, etc..  Just a coincidence?

>Listen very closely: even if Hillery did something wrong (and again, there's
>been no proof of that as yet)...it doesn't mean a damned thing concerning
>Bill Clinton. Understand? Someone who commits suicide isn't mentally stable,
>which may not be obvious even to people close to him. But if nothing else,
>it indicates who was actually guilty...that would be Foster himself. Is it a
>stretch to believe that people close to him would try to protect him?

If Hillary is guilty of crimes of obstructiuon of justice it doesn't mean a
damn thing concerning Bill Clinton???  I'll tell you what it does mean: If
 Hillary is ndicted Bill's going down too.  BTW, you forget Bill's campaign
slogan to the American people: "Two for the price of one." He said elect me
and you get her too.  Next time he's running a sale I'll pass.  

>>I could go on and on and I haven't even mentioned the railroading of the
>>Travel office empolyees or the latest FBI "filegate" matter.  These people
>>are intoxicated with power.

>These are completely unrelated and shows how desparate you are to make a
>point with no evidence. I suppose that Hillery can't choose her own Travel
>Office people????? You're looking for ANYTHING wrong, but the truth is
>you've got nothing. Next you'll be mentioning the "haircut incident" (which,
>as it turned out, was completely and utterly false...no air traffic was held
>up).

Hillary CAN choose her own people but once again the point is lost on you.
You missed the word "railroaded" in my post.  Webster's defines it as: "to
cause to be imprisoned on false charges or without a fair trial." Now Billy
Dale (the Travel office head) wasn't imprisoned but he came close; he faced
20 years on trumped up charges but was thankfully acquitted.  The jury took
less than two hours to reject the government's case. Could YOU do 20 years
for crimes you did not commit just because someone else wanted  "political
cover"  for putting their own people in your job??? This is indefensible.

>>It is true that with regard to Whitewater there is still no "smoking gun"
>>connected to the Clinton's but please don't try to tell us it is all a
>>witchhunt.

>It is a witchhunt, and the Clintons have found to have been invloved in no
>wrongdoing.

Stay tuned.

>>Do you stand by your assertion "I didn't inhale" was a joking aside that
>SOME people took seriously???.  ARE YOU KIDDING?  THE COUNTRY took it
seriously because it WAS NOT a joke. You thought it was funny?? Come again?
 A
>>bald-faced lie to a serious question!!  You are either very naive or just
>>another shameless Clinton apologist.

>Give me a break. No one should have taken it seriously, and only people
>desperate to find something wrong when they saw their party losing control
>after 12 years would see it so. If you really believe that he was serious,
>then I have to question your motives here. If Clinton wanted to lie about
>it, he would have said: "I never smoked Pot." Instead, he gave a light
>answer that deserate people took and tried to make something of.
>And you want to call ME naive? Ha!

Surely even you know that Clinton couldn't answer "I never smoked pot" and
have people (who smoked with him) running to reporters contradicting this.
 But to say  "I didn't inhale" neutralizes those that would contradict him
and keeps him "viable" - VERY SLICK.  To defend Bill Clinton on this point
puts you on very weak ground.  What does "...he gave a light answer that
desperate people took and tried to make something of" mean???  If you insist
on saying he was "joking" you are very naive. Find 3 people that agree with
you that he was joking in that instance about smoking pot during a run for
the presidency (which by all accounts he'd dreamed of since shaking JFK's
hand at a young age) and I'll burn my Who tix.

>>Bill Clinton is a man of enormous talents and intellect.  He is a also a
>very flawed individual who always manages to avoid "paying the bill."  His
time
>>may be running out.

>What, you mean because of Dole? Yeah...

No because of Kenneth Starr - he's playing for keeps.

JJM