RE: Riceboy sighting...

["Chadwick, John/COR/INV" <jchadwic@ch2m.com>]

Fucking bigot. Just kidding. I say it too. My wife even says it now!

-----Original Message-----
From: Ng, Kevin (Bank of America Commercial Finance)
[mailto:kevin.ng@bankofamericacf.com]
Sent: April 28, 2000 3:53 PM
To: 'jettaglx@igtc.com'
Subject: RE: Riceboy sighting...


Yeah no kidding...

Look, it's simple if y'all look at it this way--if the term you're using
implies condescension in any way, then it's inappropriate.

So, yes, the term "riceboy" IS an inappropriate use of language, but I will
still continue to use it. Call me a fucking bigot--I don't care.

Kevin Ng
97 Jetta GLX Windsor Blue

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Chadwick, John/COR/INV [SMTP:jchadwic@ch2m.com]
> Sent:	Friday, April 28, 2000 5:13 PM
> To:	'jettaglx@igtc.com'
> Subject:	RE: Riceboy sighting...
> 
> What is with this list lately? We are starting to end up like the GTI
> list! 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrea [mailto:app8@po.cwru.edu]
> Sent: April 28, 2000 2:45 PM
> To: jettaglx@igtc.com
> Subject: RE: Riceboy sighting...
> 
> 
> In response to your so polite reply, I'd just like to say this.  I have
> never seen that phrase in reference to people who drive pimped out cars
> before.  It did not offend me personally, I just thought the term
> inappropriate.  In regards to some of your specific points:
> 
> "I am technically an Asian American myself (you don't get the name "Khan"
> typically otherwise), and think that having a hissy over the term
> "riceboy" or "riceburner" is mental energy best spent considering how to
> tastefully get HP out of your car."
> 
> 	- I am also in fact Asian American, and I do not consider mentioning
> the 
> 	inappropriateness of a certain phrase as a "hissy".
> 
> "If you want to call german cars "weinerburners" or call Volvo's
> "iceberg-mobiles", or French cars "baguette-buggies", by all means do so.
> It is a FACT that Germany is known for their sausage, that Sweden is a
> northern European country with significant ice and snow, and that France
> is the origin of French bread that they call baguettes."
> 
> 	- Notice that you don't call the cars "riceburners" or
> "rice-mobiles" or
> "rice-
> 	buggies".  You call them riceBOYS.
> 
> a) People who use the term are not rascist.
> b) It is not a racial insult.
> 
> 	- You may not mean it as an insult but who are you to say that
> people
> won't take 	it as one.  There are other opinions in the world besides
> your
> obviously all-
> 	knowing one.
> 
> c) It does draw upon stereotypes, yes, but then so do a lot of things.
> 
> 	- So all those stereotypes are fine since everyone thinks them
> anyway?
> You're an 
> 	original thinker.
> 
> f) I'm sorry if your sensibilities were offended
> 
> 	- My sensibilities were not offended, I just felt the term was
> inappropriate.  
> 	The fact that you don't see that makes you offend me.
> 
> g) I am unwilling to refer to that kind of car in any other term other
> than "rice". That is my right as free speech, and will continue to do so
> at this, or any time in the future.
> 
> 	- Well, you can obviously say what you want, but what you say shows
> who
> you are.  
> 	I don't think that you're a bigot.  But, I think, at this point, a
> person
> of your 
> 	age since I assume you're old enough to drive, would understand if a
> term is 
> 	inappropriate or not, regardless if your intentions are harmful or
> not.
> 
> The fact that you got so bothered about this issue shows that you
> obviously
> know the possible racial implications that your chosen term has, so, maybe
> you should think again about it.
>