RE: Riceboy sighting...

[Andrea <app8@po.cwru.edu>]

I never called any of you bigots.  I just said that you should consider
other people when you talk.  Because of the fact that you choose to use
that inappropriate term, you should accept the fact that other people won't
agree with it.  And, the fact of the matter is, you all know that some
people will find it offensive, so deal with it when people point that fact
out to you.



At 05:53 PM 4/28/00 -0400, Ng, Kevin (Bank of America Commercial Finance)
wrote:
>Yeah no kidding...
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>Look, it's simple if y'all look at it this way--if the term you're using
>implies condescension in any way, then it's inappropriate.
>
>So, yes, the term "riceboy" IS an inappropriate use of language, but I will
>still continue to use it. Call me a fucking bigot--I don't care.
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>Kevin Ng
>97 Jetta GLX Windsor Blue
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:	Chadwick, John/COR/INV [SMTP:jchadwic@ch2m.com]
>> Sent:	Friday, April 28, 2000 5:13 PM
>> To:	'jettaglx@igtc.com'
>> Subject:	RE: Riceboy sighting...
>> 
>> What is with this list lately? We are starting to end up like the GTI
>> list! 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andrea [mailto:app8@po.cwru.edu]
>> Sent: April 28, 2000 2:45 PM
>> To: jettaglx@igtc.com
>> Subject: RE: Riceboy sighting...
>> 
>> 
>> In response to your so polite reply, I'd just like to say this.  I have
>> never seen that phrase in reference to people who drive pimped out cars
>> before.  It did not offend me personally, I just thought the term
>> inappropriate.  In regards to some of your specific points:
>> 
>> "I am technically an Asian American myself (you don't get the name "Khan"
>> typically otherwise), and think that having a hissy over the term
>> "riceboy" or "riceburner" is mental energy best spent considering how to
>> tastefully get HP out of your car."
>> 
>> 	- I am also in fact Asian American, and I do not consider mentioning
>> the 
>> 	inappropriateness of a certain phrase as a "hissy".
>> 
>> "If you want to call german cars "weinerburners" or call Volvo's
>> "iceberg-mobiles", or French cars "baguette-buggies", by all means do so.
>> It is a FACT that Germany is known for their sausage, that Sweden is a
>> northern European country with significant ice and snow, and that France
>> is the origin of French bread that they call baguettes."
>> 
>> 	- Notice that you don't call the cars "riceburners" or
>> "rice-mobiles" or
>> "rice-
>> 	buggies".  You call them riceBOYS.
>> 
>> a) People who use the term are not rascist.
>> b) It is not a racial insult.
>> 
>> 	- You may not mean it as an insult but who are you to say that
>> people
>> won't take 	it as one.  There are other opinions in the world besides
>> your
>> obviously all-
>> 	knowing one.
>> 
>> c) It does draw upon stereotypes, yes, but then so do a lot of things.
>> 
>> 	- So all those stereotypes are fine since everyone thinks them
>> anyway?
>> You're an 
>> 	original thinker.
>> 
>> f) I'm sorry if your sensibilities were offended
>> 
>> 	- My sensibilities were not offended, I just felt the term was
>> inappropriate.  
>> 	The fact that you don't see that makes you offend me.
>> 
>> g) I am unwilling to refer to that kind of car in any other term other
>> than "rice". That is my right as free speech, and will continue to do so
>> at this, or any time in the future.
>> 
>> 	- Well, you can obviously say what you want, but what you say shows
>> who
>> you are.  
>> 	I don't think that you're a bigot.  But, I think, at this point, a
>> person
>> of your 
>> 	age since I assume you're old enough to drive, would understand if a
>> term is 
>> 	inappropriate or not, regardless if your intentions are harmful or
>> not.
>> 
>> The fact that you got so bothered about this issue shows that you
>> obviously
>> know the possible racial implications that your chosen term has, so, maybe
>> you should think again about it.
>> 
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