Re: RE: need help...hella air horns install CORRECTION !!!!

[Matt Zajac <MTZajac@beloit.com>]

OK
Yes both connectors #30 and #86 need to be connected to a battery positive terminal. In order to work the horn has to have a +12V on one terminal and "ground" (-12V) on the other, and since one of the terminals (on the stock horn plug) is a constant +12V the other one is a "ground" which is switched on and off when you press the button. I'm sorry for all of the inclarities, if you want me to i can send you a diagram.
 

>>> "Ng, Kevin (NationsCredit)" <kevin.ng@nationscredit.com> 07/07 10:27 AM >>>
Whoa wait a sec....which relay(s) are you talking about? It sounds to me
like you want me to connect #86 on the Hella relay to #30 on the SAME relay?
If so, then there is no need to run a wire (w/ inline fuse) from #30 to the
battery? This is not making sense to me. 

Matt, I really appreciate your help, but could be please be a little more
specific. Vague instructions are what got me into this mess in the first
place.

Thanks,
Kevin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Zajac [SMTP:MTZajac@beloit.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 11:07 AM
> To: jettaglx@igtc.com 
> Subject: Re: need help...hella air horns install CORRECTION !!!!
> 
> Hey Sorry man I made a same mistake as you (TAKING ABOUT BEING STUPID)
> 
> The correction: CONNECTOR# 86 HAS TOBE CONNECTED TO CONNECTOR# 30 !!!!!!!!
> Not to the ground, and I'm sure now everything will work fine.
> Sorry for a stupid mistake.........
> 
> Matt 
> 98 Jetta GLX
> I Have a BIG headache with my stock horns too.......     and with my head.
> I wonder what hurts if it's empty......
> 
> >>> Matt Zajac <MTZajac@beloit.com> 07/07 9:25 AM >>>
> First of all .... Your stock horns are connected to a relay on a fuse
> panel and that's what's clickin' .
> Check fuse number 13 on a panel. What you did with the HELLA relay is
> sweet, too much protection won't hurt. Disconnect a plug from the stock
> horns, using a probe light (or a light bulb with two wires) check the plug
> which you disconnected: on one terminal should be a constant 12V and the
> other should light up the bulb when you press the horn button ( ignition
> must be on). Then connect the signal cable (one that lights up the bulb
> when a horn button is pressed) to HELLA relay terminal #85. I hope it
> helps, let me know how it turned out.
> 
> BTW: If you look on the fuse panel, in the row of relays right above the
> fuses, second relay from the right should be the horn relay.
> 
> 
> Matt 
> 98 Jetta GLX
> I Have a BIG headache with my stock horns too.
> 
> Matt Zajac
> Technical Analyst
> Beliot Corporation
> E-Mail: MTZajac@beloit.com 
> Tel: (847) 229-5843
> Fax: (847) 229-5880
> 
> >>> <SpeedieVR6@aol.com> 07/07 1:08 AM >>>
> Ok, call me stupid. Call me a moron. I don't care. The fact is that in the
> 
> amount of time it takes to do a VR6 engine swap, I have tried to install 
> these damned hella air horns, and I still have no clue how to make it
> work.
> 
> I've mounted the horns (dual) and the compressor. Easy enough. The wiring
> is 
> where I f'ed up. Someone told me that all I have to do is disconnect the 
> stock horn and run wires from the connector directly to the Hella
> compressor. 
> Is it realy that easy? Then why did Hella mess with my mind and include
> this 
> bastard relay? 
> 
> Anyway, this is how I've wired things up so far...forgive me if I don't 
> include a diagram (I'm stupid, remember?):
> - Connected #30 on relay to positive terminal on battery, with 30A inline 
> fuse in between.
> - Connected #87 on relay to positive terminal on compressor.
> - Connected negative terminal on compressor to a ground.
> - Connected #86 on relay to a ground.
> - Connected #85 on relay to positive terminal on stock horn connector.
> - Connected negative terminal on stock horn connector to a ground.
> 
> When I turn on the ignition and press the horn, I just hear a click. I've 
> even tried to switch the connections from the stock horn connector. When I
> do 
> that the horn goes off as soon as I turn on the ignition, so I know at
> least 
> the horns work. 
> 
> Please help! I thought I was pretty good at doing stuff like this, as I've
> 
> installed everything on my car ('cept for the AWE short shifter), but now
> I 
> am truly humbled.
> 
> Thanks,
> Kevin Ng
> 97 Jetta GLX Windsor Blue "as soon as air horns are installed will post 
> thorough instructions for the archives" edition
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