Thanks, Chris, but how do I access the archives??? I just joined the list last week, so there's still a whole bunch I don't know... If you can't get back to me with that, I'll try to take them out on my own, but I would like to read up on it first. Thanks again. ENS D.J. Bergesen Student Naval Aviator djbergesen@dotstar.net 96 Vento GLX VR6 blk/blk 96 Chevy Cavalier (aka SLOW)