Re: Don's song: THE FINAL SAY (very long)

["Dr. Bob" <rmalinka@spec.net>]

AMEN!!




At 12:18 AM 10/15/98 -0400, you wrote:
>What we have here is a case of two people who are very different behind a
>keyboard than they are in person.  Don and Wally.  Two great guys who I have
>had the opportunity to meet in person, who are both very different than
>their posts lead most to believe.  Wally is a big jokester who loves to take
>shots at people, and does it just to stir things up.  He means no harm or
>offense.  In fact, his posts led to him being "railroaded" from the GTI list
>as some put it.  Wally was just pulling his usual pranks, and some people
>took it too far, to a very personal level.  That is why Wally elected to
>leave the GTI List, as far as I know.  When you meet Wally in person, you
>know right away he's a cool guy.  In fact, he has hosted (and helped with)
>some of the greatest VW gatherings to date!  Wally will not kill you for
>having a Shine suspension, although he may bust your balls, all in fun.  Don
>is a good guy as well.  He is honest and straight up, and I can attest to
>the fact that he likes his job, although he may not agree with the way some
>things are done.  He is very helpful, and has done a lot for me in the year
>or so I have known him.  Don is most certainly not a boring guy, in fact he
>is quite lively and friendly to everyone around him.  And yes, Don
>contributes a lot to these lists, in my opinion.  Don has demonstrated to me
>plenty of reasons why he thinks the New Beetle is a piece of shit.  It may
>be a nice car, but it certainly is nowhere near as SERVICEABLE as some other
>VW's.  Don's perspective of these cars comes from the fact that he only sees
>them when they are broken, and he knows they are a pain in the ass to work
>on.  Don is just telling it like it is from a mechanic's perspective, and
>Wally is playing his usual game.  But once again, it is escalating too far,
>and grown men are acting like idiotic children. I have to say, though, I was
>persuaded to write this after reading some very valid points in Don's reply
>below.  Everything he says is true.  I gave this list a shot hoping it
>wouldn't be as lame as the GTI list.  Wally and Don add greatly to this
>list, mixing Wally's humor with Don's extensive knowledge.  Personalities
>will always clash, it is just too bad it is happening over a listserver, and
>that these two have never met in person.  Next time we have a Northeast
>gathering, Wally and Don should make an effort to show up so they can meet
>each other and understand what I'm taking about.  They'd get along just
>fine.  Believe it or not, they are more alike than anyone could ever imagine
>by just seeing their posts.  Thanks for letting me vent, and let's drop this
>whole thread entirely!!  If anyone wants to argue this, please email
>privately and spare everyone the BS.
>
>IT, INDEED, HAS BEEN WRITTEN (thanks, Wally!, just trying to put this to
>rest!)
>
>Later,
>Greg
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>>You know Wally are you sure I am the one with the problem or is it you?
>>Believe it or not I really do like my job. I enjoy going to work everyday
>>and having a good time hanging out with my friendsand I especially like to
>>talk to my customers to find out what really is wrong with there car.  I
>>can fix anything thrown at me. It might take awhile but I won't throw up my
>>hands and walk away.  Maybe I sound bitter but's that is my style of
>>writing,however  if you talk to other list members you might get a
>>different image of what I am in person. The next time you see Greg Coe or
>>Uwe Ross or Joe Maarsman  ask them about me.  I hate to toot my own horn
>>but I have strong work ethic and at times get tired of dealing with all the
>>bull shit.  I have a job to do just like you. Your tools are ability to
>>debate and convince someone that your client is innoncent or guilty?  My
>>tools are what I have in my tool box, the repair information provided from
>>the manufacturer, the special tools needed to complete the repairs. Take
>>away my special tools, take away my literature and I can't do my job and
>>fix the car. Take away your ability to debate or they means to gather
>>information to build a case for your client and you can't do your job.
>>
>>I could just fold up my tent and go else where, but for what. The same car,
>>same problems. No vacation or lousy health benefits.  I will just stay
>>where I am for awhile.
>>
>>Hell I leave and all you people will loose out on my ranting. Besides all
>>the information I occasionnally add to this list and others.
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