Re: [Fwd: SCARRRYY!!!!]

["S. Joseph Mann" <joem@pswtech.com>]

George when I grow up I want to be just like you. Yeah!  Ok, this "Can't
we all get along" crap is getting deep. 

As for your stunning ability to drive a car, if I'm not mistaken you
told us just last night that you almost lost control of a vehicle with a
stock suspension that tens of thousands of people around the word drive
every FREAKING DAY!!.  And, George, they don't seem to have a problem. 
It must be that stunning driving ability of yours.

I travel a great deal, and in doing so I rent many different cars. All,
make my GLX seem like a formula one racer. In my travels I've had the
pleasure of driving everything from a Geo Prism to a Buick LaSabre with
the oh so cushy Dynaride suspension. Surprisingly, and much to your
chagrin, I have yet to loose control of a single vehicle.  It must be my
adolescent, impoverished, inept driving ability.

Now, as for putting people down, flaming the intelligently challenged,
and generally just given folks shit,...IF I ever compose an email with
content stating that I can not control well know, mass produced,
European sports sedan, PLEEEEASE! abuse me heavily. Very heavily.

:)


George Turner, Jr. wrote:

> <<<<<<<<<<<<WITH ALL DUE RESPECT>>>>>>>>>
>  IN RESPONSE TO EVERYONE
> I know how to drive, I am sure I drive much better than those attempting to put 
> me down.  Once you can beat me on the autocross coarse, or on the track... then 
> talk to me.  Also, I do not drink, never have,  never will.
> I basically never owned a stock glx.  I preferred to change it when I got mines
> because I did not like the way it felt.  I have never owned a car whose stock 
> suspension was soo bad.  My previous car was a passat, and it handled much better 
> than the glx with no mods.. before that I owned a Porsche 944 turbo.  To go from 
> cars that handle pretty good with no mods to a car than sucked is mind boggling.  
> I am not the one to slide assignee comments in on anyone.  I dont treat you that
> way, and dont expect any of you to treat me that way.  If you have a problem with
> something I say, be a bigger man and take it off the list.  THAT IS FOR EVERYONE. 
> you can email me privately, or even call me and express your feelings. 310-671-6962.
> I put up with reading all the childish bickering for the past couple days because
> some else expressed their opinion on something they see daily.  ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS > GROW UP!.
> I thought this list was to express experiences, tell what works and what doesn't,
> and where to get the best deals... if I am wrong..someone please let me know.  it
> amazes me to see how grown men can act.  the ones usually doing the silly comments
> are the ones who usually cannot afford the mods others talk about. jealousy is a
> silly thing. we are here to accomplish a common goal... fix up and enjoy our VW's. 
> not put down the next man for their thoughts and experiences.
> george (a very disappointed list member)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: S. Joseph Mann <joem@pswtech.com>
> To: jettaglx@igtc.com <jettaglx@igtc.com>
> Date: Monday, October 12, 1998 10:31 PM
> Subject: Re: SCARRRYY!!!!
> 
> >George,
> >
> >(I almost crashed 4 times!) PLEASE! With all due respect, literally,
> >LEARN TO DRIVE. OR, verify that all the original parts are connected
> >properly, i.e. SWAY BARS!  I've driven my bone stock GLX for over 3
> >years, often at the limits of it's speed, and never once come close to
> >loosing control.
> >
> >Your car does not GIVE you control, you EXERT it.
> >
> >
> >
> >> George Turner, Jr. wrote:
> >>
> >>    I experienced one of the scariest things ever over the weekend.  I
> >> drove a GLX with STOCK suspension! (no disrespect to fellow glx'ers
> >> with stock suspension)  To make a long story short.. I got rid of my
> >> carrera coil overs and put back on my stock suspension till the H&R's
> >> come in.  I have been driving my car with a performance suspension
> >> about 3 weeks after I got it and forgot what it feels like to drive a
> >> stock GLX.  On Friday night I had to drive about 30 miles to a friends
> >> house to pick up a banner for the VW club, on the way I almost crashed
> >> 4 times!  I never knew changing lanes, going on and off on ramps,  and
> >> uneven roads could be soo dangerous!  I was never soo scared to drive
> >> a car before in my life.  It got to the point where I almost pulled
> >> over and called AAA for a tow back home!  The car totally has a
> >> different personality..  I hit a bump while driving and turning at the
> >> same time and the car almost jumped totally into the next lane.
> >> SCARY!!  even a crappy suspension set up is better than driving a car
> >> stock!  spinning out on the freeway while going 95 mph in traffic does
> >> not compare to how scared I was driving the car with stock
> >> suspension.
> >> MORAL:  forget chips, rims, and all that other stuff...change your
> >> suspension FIRST!!!
> >> btw..I measured the difference between the stock set up and the height
> >> in had the car with the coil overs.. it was 3 1/4 inches!!  The ride
> >> quality was still pretty good..
> >> George
> >