RE: AUDI CREAMED

[Bryan Billings <vwxcross@worldnet.att.net>]

I have both a NB and a 97 GLX and I have not had a single problem with either.  With the exceeption of the gear shift thing flying off.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From:	Tony Mori [SMTP:tonym@compusource.net]
Sent:	Sunday, October 11, 1998 6:30 PM
To:	jettaglx@igtc.com
Subject:	RE: AUDI CREAMED

The only problem I've had with the beetle, is the little plastic doo-hickey
(getting technical ;) )with the gear numbers, which snaps onto the shifters.
pops off, and FLIES across the car.

the Jetta, on the other hand:

1) A/C vent is broken from factory
2) switch on dash to roll up/down LeftRear window
3) Gas cap cover sunk in about 1/2"
4) car pulls to the left when driving
5) all the outer door handles are VERY loose, except for drivers door
6) Sunroof "sticks"
7) noisy shifting from 2-3, and has actually slipped out of 3rd a few times.


this is just off the top of my head. there's more, i'm just kinda' too
pissed
at it to remember. I expected a car for $23K window to be better. It drives
REALLY nice, and has lots of power, but...

What's your opinion of the GLX? And any positive changes in the past years?
what about the new Passat?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-jettaglx@igtc.com [mailto:owner-jettaglx@igtc.com]On Behalf
> Of deecee@exit109.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 1998 9:07 PM
> To: jettaglx@igtc.com
> Subject: RE: AUDI CREAMED
>
>
> At 07:46 PM 10/11/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >Piece of crap, huh? Tell ya what...I bought my NB 8/3/98
> >and my jetta GLX in september. Beetle hasn't even SEEN the service dept.
> >I'm arranging my *FOURTH* visit in the Jetta, in like 3 - 4 weeks of
> >ownership.
> >
> >Given my choice now, I'd have waited for the 1.8T beetle, or gotten a
> >passat.
> >
> >
> >Speak not of which you don't know. If you don't own a beetle, keep your
> >mouth shut
> >about it. It's a MUCH better put-together car than the Jetta. No contest.
> >
> >
> >Flame all you want, but I have BOTH in my driveway. And I KNOW the
> >difference.
>
>
> Tony, I have been around for awhile and can speak with the experience to
> back it up.  I saw the NB in October of last year on a trailer bound for
> Michigan. Remember this car wasn't seen by the public until Jan5 of this
> year. We opened the hood and couldn't believe how every thing was a jam
> fit. Because of this type of manufacturing process of jam fitting is the
> reason we have had 6 recalls on this car. Most were minor upgrades and one
> was very important. The battery tray. I have also seen the new updated
> battery tray cut in to the ABS wiring harness. We had 3 Engineers visiting
> my dealership the day we were working on that car. They couldn't believe
> what we showed them.  The took video tape of the car and also took the
> bracket back with them. I also heard  that a railroad car with 18 NB burnt
> up in Georgia a few weeks ago along with the railroad car.
>
> The quality control is getting better that I have to agree with. The turn
> around started with the 1996 Golf/Jetta.  I am afraid of what the next
> generation cars will be like.  Consider yourself lucky with your NB I have
> seen many problems that can be directly linked to production design and I
> guess they are growing pains. I can't wait to see how they cram the 1.8t
> engine. The thought of the glass sliding roof scares me. If it is the same
> design as Porsche uses that can mean trouble. The technician who
> works next
> me is our Porsche tech. I watched him spend over 30 hours disassembling a
> targa roof to replace 2 $1.00 clips. The repair manual states
> that the rear
> window must be removed and discarded. The sliding rails are riveted and
> held in place with urethane sealer.
>
> One of the the scariest aspects of all the VW's is to me excessive use of
> plastic components. Look at them the wrong way and they will break. All
> trim parts are made to go together and heaven help you if they have to be
> removed. Chances are something will break and have to be ordered.  When I
> attended the Audi A6 intro class the instructor  told us that whenever
> removing a piece of trim . "Pull on it until it sounds like you broke it"
> If you don't get that sound pull harder.  Nice way to build a car ! The
> scary part is that it works.
>
> I am quite sure that many NB owners have never lifted up the
> hood. This car
> is not for the weekend mechanic. Oil changes are about the only
> repair a NB
> owner could do.
>
> If I had the money I would drive an Audi A4. Since I don't I will keep on
> driving my 1992 Jetta Eco Diesel. Hell it only has 230,000 miles and runs
> like the day it was born. Besides it's paid for.
>
> Don
>