Re: my first dealer visit

[Joe Mann <joem@pswtech.com>]

Ok, not to be a skeptic, but I've never known a leak to just stop on its own.  Double check
to make sure they didn't put a sealant additive of some kind in your oil.  If so, you may
want to change it soon.

"There is usually no SEATING time. It seals or it doesn't."
                      - Don - referring to said plugs

It leaked from somewhere to begin with, and it stopped for a reason.  Find out why.  Run a
dummy test on them. Ask the service people, innocently, if the pug needed time to "seat/seal"
itself.  If the say yes, then they think YOU'RE THE DUMMY.  And they fail the dummy test.
Then tell them you happen to know a VW master mechanic with over 20 years of experience
(sound right Don?) and then repeat the quote above.  Tell them "I want to know why it was
leaking and better yet, did you add anything to my oil to stop it??!" If so, ask them to
change the oil and you'll be happy.

God! I must really be a pain in the ass as a customer! :-)

Later VW gods,

Joe

zeek the geek wrote:

> well, it's now been one week since my
> first dealer visit after noticing globs of
> oil around the freeze plug. what the
> service dept at charle maund VW did
> was to thoroughly clean the area and
> told me to keep an eye on it for one
> week's time.
>
> well, i'm glad to say i haven't seen even
> the slightest trace of oil anywhere in the
> area. i've been checking it about every
> other day- as well as the rest of the
> engine and there are NO fluids anywhere
> to be found (leaking.)
> thanks for all your input. i'm just glad to
> say there are no problems, just a few
> drops of oil not cleaned up by the factory.
>
> _____________________
> spank me hard- REAL hard
>
> On Sunday, February 08, 1998 6:32 PM, deecee@exit109.com [SMTP:deecee@exit109.com] wrote:
> > At 11:05 AM 6/25/97 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Don't believe everything Maund VW tells you Zeek.
> > >
> > >Don, correct me if I'm wrong, But "Freezeplugs" are for the cooling
> > system.  Not the oil
> > >system.  The two should not meet.  And actually, if I'm not mistaken, the
> > holes capped by
> > >the freezeplugs are created during the casting of the block.  But, no
> > matter, the idea of
> > >oil coming from the freezeplug is bull shit.  (I think).  Keep an eye on
> > Maund. And if you
> > >have a major problem ask to speak with Salem (customer service mgr) and if
> > that doesn't
> > >work tall to "Tiny".  He runs the entire service department.
> > >
> >
> > > Joe, The freeze plugs are in the cooling system. These hopefully will
> > prevent the block from cracking if the coolant should freeze. There are
> > metal plugs that look like freeze plugs at the end of oil galleys. Most of
> > these plugs are at the end of the block. I have seen these fail and cause
> > oil leaks. There is usually no SEATING time. It seals or it doesn't. I have
> > also seen porous engine blocks.
> > Right now we are starting to see porous cylinder heads on the Audi 1.8t
> > engines. I am sure the Passat will not be far with this problem.
> >
> > Don