Re: Ignition Survey

[TFP <tfp@tsil.net>]

97 GLX - 10,100 miles
I had it happen about 20 times where I could NOT get the key to turn in the
ignition. I sat and played with the stupid steering wheel and shifter and
everything else TRYING to make it turn. I came close to forcing it.
Sometimes, I've sat there for TWENTY MINUTES trying... trying... trying!!!!
I told this to the dealer (Apollo VW/Subaru... now DAY APOLLO - Coraopolis,
PA) and they said it just needed lubricated. BULL!!! I'm sorry, but just two
days ago, I sat for 20 minutes again before it finally worked. My other keys
did NOT work either.

So far, I have had no trouble with the trunk or doors. I have never unlocked
the seat thing.

HEY VW!!! FIX MY CAR!!!!
Thom Peluso



At 10:16 AM 7/11/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Item Subject: cc:Mail Text
>     In response to Andrew Atwell's recent battle with VW over his faulty 
>     ignition tumbler; I wanted to ask the whole list if ANYONE has had ANY 
>     SIMILAR problem related to the ignition tumbler, the keys, the door 
>     lock tumblers the hatch or the trunk or the interior keyed parts like 
>     the consoles locking flap?
>     
>     If anyone has any info about problems like this please share it with 
>     the list and or mail responses privately to Andrew or myself.
>     
>     ANDREW_ATWELL@HP.com
>     
>     chels@wbfa.com
>     
>     Much appreciated.  Let's hope it doesn't start happening to everyones 
>     cars.
>     
>     Surgeon Generals Warning!
>     
>     Beware of sticky key tumblers. They will eventually fail.
>     
>     Symptoms:       Key will not turn in ignition?
>     
>     Key turns but Car will not start?
>     
>     Key turns only to "on " position, then sticks.
>     
>     Key stuck in ignition with car running?
>     
>     
>     Key stuck in door lock?
>     
>     Key tumbler pulls out of the door handle?
>     
>     Key stuck in the door handle tumbler?
>     
>     
>     All the above IGNITION tumbler problems happened to my  '95 GLX, and 
>     at least 2 others that we know of. It's fun to sit in your beloved 
>     wheels and play with the key for 10 minutes trying to start the car so 
>     you can drive it (not tow it) to the dealer. I had to have EVERY 
>     tumbler on my GLX replaced so the keys would match. Mine was under 
>     warranty.
>     
>     If it's not covered under warranty, look to spend in excess of 300 
>     bucks for the ignition work alone and then carry two nearly identical 
>     keys one for the doors and one for the ignition.
>     
>     
>     Please respond to help Andrew and others with the similar symptoms 
>     prove they are not alone out there.
>     
>     -HELS
>
>
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