Re: VW door noise and Audi V6 power train in new Passat

[Joe Mann <joem@pswtech.com>]

Khan,

If you've gone though the procedures mentioned below (and, no guys, I
don't assume these are the only diagnostic methods) and can conclude
that the noise only occurs while the car is in motion, I think you can
be pretty sure that it is the black rubber "door frame seal".  If so,
this can be corrected by tightening the door latch pin.  BUT!!, as new
as you car is I would insist that the dealer fix the problem.

Side note: Guys, that squeaky "interior door trim panel" problem I've
(and many of you have) been having and can't seem to get the dealer or
VoA to fix. Well, I got a call today from VoA in MI. It seems that
filling a complaint with the BBB AUTO LINE seems to have got their
attention.  The guy from VoA today said that he felt that it was
ridiculous that the dealer and the lower ranks of VoA were giving me
such a hard time about fixing this problem.  Within a few hours of get a
call from the BBB A.L. he was on the phone to the Service Manager of my
local (and ONLY) VW dealer.  He said, "FIX IT, even if you have to
replace the whole interior door panel!" Cool!!

OH!! news flash!!!!!!!!!!!  He said that the new Passat (only) is going
to have an all Audi power train.  So those of you who are intrigued by
the new 2.8L 190 HP Audi 5 valve V6, can check it out in the new
Passat.  I think he also said that the Audi 4 Cylinder Turbo will also
be available in the Passat.

Later,

Jettamann



Khan M. Klatt wrote:

> At 2:59 PM -0500 8/11/97, S. Joseph Mann wrote:
> >Guys,
> >
> >(Don, help me on this one)
> >
> >I'm pretty confident we are speaking about two totally different
> noises.
> >
> >The first one would most likely be coming from the door's rubber seal
>
> >between it and the body. You can see it along the outer frame of the
> >door when it's open. This noise, generated by the door and the body
> of
> >the car rubbing against each other, should one: only be heard when
> the
> >door is shut, and two: most likely only when the body is flexing
> while
> >the car is moving.
> >
> >The second noise/squeak (and my current nightmare) comes from the
> >plastic interior door panel rubbing against the body of the door.
> This
> >noise should be reproducible when the door is both open and closed
> and
> >the car is in motion or still. But, should NOT be heard when the door
> is
> >not being touched, whether the car is in motion or still. If this is
> the
> >case you "should" be able to recreate the sound by pressing on the
> the
> >armrest of the door with your elbow or the heel of you hand.
> >
> >On my 95 GLX I can easily recreate the noise on both front doors by
> >pressing on the trailing end of the armrest with the heal of my hand
> >when the door in open, or with the door closed by gripping the door
> >handle with my arm resting on the arm rest and pressing down with my
> >elbow. IT'S VERY FRICKING ANNOYING AND I CAN'T GET MY DEALER OR VoA
> TO
> >FIX IT UNDER MY 2 YEAR WARRANTY!!!  Ok, enough whining.
> >
> >I hope this clears up any confusion about the two different problems.
>
> >Maybe we could refer to them as A) the "door frame seal" noise/squeak
>
> >and B) the "interior door trim panel" noise/squeak  OK, call me anal!
>
> I'm nearing 5,000 miles on my 97 GLX, and when I take it in for the
> oil
> change, I want them to fix as many strange issues as possible
>
> 1. The hi-beam indicator went out (doesn't light)
> 2. There was a screw just hanging out (not screwed in) right near the
> front
> passenger seat
> 3. I didn't get a locking GAS CAP?!?! What the HECK? [my friend who
> drives
> a Corrado has a pin that automatically locks it when the car is
> locked, and
> unlocks it when the driver door is unlocked-- cool feature, mine
> doesn't
> have it!?!? GRR! This should be STANDARD!]
> 4. The rubber end cap for the fold down rear seat- one of them seemed
> to
> have come off. Flimsy little thing.
> 5. The squeaking doors. Sounds like there are a bunch of crickets in
> the
> back seat when you're driving around town.
>
> So, HOW DO YOU FIX THE CREAKING CRICKETS IF THE DEALER SAYS "LIVE WITH
> IT!"
>
> :-)
>
> -Khan
>
> >ANDREW_ATWELL@HP-PaloAlto-om20.om.hp.com wrote:
> >
> >> Item Subject: VW door noise
> >>      I too had that nerve grating squeak for a long long time.  I
> >> thought
> >>      (and my dealer thought) that it was my after market suspension
>
> >> (SPAX)
> >>      all this time.  But thanks to an e-mail posted (I can't
> remember
> >> from
> >>      who) I have adjusted my door lock post (2 screws T40 Torx
> head)
> >> about
> >>      1/8th inches in and down to line up the door with the roof and
>
> >> body
> >>      (how did this ever unline it's self?) and now the squeak is
> >> gone!!!!
> >>      Thanks a million!!!  I would highly suggest that anyone with
> this
> >>
> >>      squeak to carefull look at their doors and try adjusting them
> >> with a
> >>      T40 Torx driver.
> >>      andy
> >>
> >> ______________________________ Reply Separator
> >> _________________________________
> >> Subject: VW door noise
> >> Author:  Non-HP-JayS (JayS@micrografx.com) at HP-PaloAlto,mimegw6
> >> Date:    8/11/97 10:49 AM
> >>
> >> This is the plastic door panel rubbing at the upper rear edge.
> Push
> >> out
> >> on it with your hand, just below the door lock post -- you should
> be
> >> able to hear it.
>
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