Re: Neuspeed Jetta

[ANDREW_ATWELL@HP-PaloAlto-om20.om.hp.com]

     The P-flow just sits in the engine compartment and draws it's air in 
     from all directions and the air is heated by the motor.  The factory 
     airbox draws it's air from the side fender, there is a hole in the 
     side of the fender and a pipe that runs from the fender to the airbox. 
      So all of the air that is drawn in is fresh, unheated air, from the 
     outside.  Swithching to a K&N filter element porvides the same flow as 
     a P-flow but the air is entirely cool fresh air from the outside, 
     (unless you live in L.A. where the quaility and temp of the outside 
     air is questionable).  I learned the hard way, I did buy the P-flow 
     and after 1.5 years with it, I became tired of the noise and convinced 
     that the heated air outweighed the benefits, of it's flow increase, 
     consequently I had to spend more money to get an element.  For 
     resources I note that, as mentioned before, nuespeed doesn't even use 
     their P-flow on their project car, everyone I talked to at New 
     Dimensions uses an element rather than a P-flow, and multiple postings 
     in the r.a.m.vw.w NG against it.  I am not aware of any archives but a 
     DEJANEWS search of the topic should pull some up.  There have also 
     been NO published dyno results of an increase of power with a P-flow 
     alone.  The previous is all of course my personal opinion based on 
     conjecture that I have read and should not be taken as Gospel.  I 
     never mean to preach, but unfortuately I have a problem of talking 
     (typing) too much.
     
     The (self proclaimed) Reverend Andy Atwell
     Happy speeding.
     
     Ps. it has been oftly quiet out there, peple must actually be working 
     today.


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Subject: Re: Neuspeed Jetta
Author:  Non-HP-owner-jettaglx (owner-jettaglx@igtc.com) at HP-PaloAlto,mimegw6
Date:    4/10/97 11:10 AM


> From igtc.COM!owner-jettaglx Wed Apr  9 18:47:33 1997 
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> Subject: Neuspeed Jetta
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>      advertizing stratagie.  I removed mine a while ago after all the talk 
>      that they don't really do much becuase of the hot air they draw in.  I 
>      have since switched back to the factory airbox with a few mods, 
>      removal of the large particle screen and the upper snorkel and put in 
>      an ABT free flowing air filter (a blue and yellow K&N basically).  
     
I'm just curious because I'm thinking about getting a PFLO.  Is the discussion 
of the pros and cons of PFLOs archived anywhere?  Why would the PFLO take in 
WARMER air than your configuration now?  Aren't they drawing it from the same 
location in the engine compartment?  Do you have some type of an AIR COOLER in 
your airbox right now?
     
     
Thanks,
Jay