re: RE: RE: Devin Harris and Zydrunas Ilgauskas

[wayray@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Right-o, but he still played 30 a game; 31 this season.
Makes his production all the more impressive.
Also note, they were tanking last season.

But Stonehill College Visiting Instructor dude,
Here's a couple of Stonehill College Ghost stories for you.
Yes, free non-Basketball Bonus Coverage:

 Stonehill College Ghost Stories
Background: Stonehill College opened on September 20, 1948, originally known as 'Stone Hill House', and was part of the estate of Frederick Ames, local Massachusetts aviator and stunt flyer, whose plane crashed  into Tower Hill in Randolph on November 6, 1932, as he was performing stunts and a loose box in the plane shifted in the way of his control stick, killing him.  

The estate of Frederick Ames was purchased by Holy Cross Fathers in 1935, and they used it as their eastern training headquarters for missionaries. Along the way,
the Holy Cross Fathers and brothers decided the estate was better suited for the
collegiate environment, and thus it was made so in 1948 with the formation of Stonehill College.

Ghosts of Stonehill:   "The older story begins with a drowning that allegedly occurred in the indoor pool located in a building near rthe mansion when it was owned by the Ames family.  When Stonehill College was created, they covered the pool and used the building as a gym. The draining of the pool hasn't stopped members of two generations of Stonehill students from reporting children's voices and a gruesome scratching sound coming from under the floor in the building, now Alumni Hall.  A good story no doubt, but there was almost certainly no drowning in the old pool!

The other ghost story "tells of a dread Blue Mist that sweeps across the campus. Inside the Mist is the blood stained ghost of Fred Ames come to walk his estate again. The ghost story grew during one of the frequent expansions of Stonehill when new high powered outside lighting was installed in the late 1970's or early 1980's. These lights do seem to turn some of the frequent fogs that sweep through Easton an unusual shade of blue!"


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> Department of Political Science
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> -----Original Message-----From: owner-celtics@xxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-celtics@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of wayray@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 12:35 PM
> To: celtics@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: re: RE: Devin Harris and Zydrunas Ilgauskas
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> Ilgauskas has missed 1 game in two season. He seems quite healthy
> and is an upgrade over Perkins. And Cleveland sans injury to McGinnis
> was going to be in the playoffs and still may be. Ilgauskas scores,
> rebounds, and 
> blocks shots, what more do you want?
> Ray
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> > Marcus may or may not be the point guard of the future. I don't think
> he
> > is. Some do. We'll see. But at best, the jury is still out. If you can
> > get a better player, you have to do it. Point guard is crucial. We
> have
> > Chucky to handle things for two more seasons, but we have to find the
> > long-term answer (and maybe short-term -- as good as Chucky has been,
> we
> > have to be open to upgrades).
> > 
> > The only position the Celts don't need to address in the draft is the
> > 2/3 spot. If they can get an impact player at PF/C or PG, do it.
> > 
> > As for Ray's interest in Ilgauskas ... Yes, he has played 71 games
> this
> > season. Bill Walton played an entire season in 1986. Didn't mean he
> had
> > good feet or wasn't injury prone.
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> > Look, if you can get Ilgauskas without giving up Perkins, maybe. But
> > then it's going to cost you Jiri -- and I'm not in favor of that.
> > Ilgauskas puts up decent stats, but he hasn't been the impact player
> > that he used to be. He has lost some quickness and just isn't the same
> > guy. Before all the injuries, he was a center who made you a playoff
> > team -- look back at the records. Since the injuries, he's a decent
> > center in a center-starved conference. 
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> > Yes to a PG in the draft, no to Ilgauskas.
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> > Mark
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> > -----Original Message-----From: Sean Giovanello
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> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 11:06 AM
> > To: Berry, Mark S; Celtics@xxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: Devin Harris and Zydrunas Ilgauskas
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> >  I just think its to early to even be considering drafting a PG.  We
> > just took Marcus this past year and Danny obviously liked him.  He
> > talked him up big time as well (the most NBA ready point guard in the
> > draft - oops).  Even Danny's critics agree he has an average to above
> > average eye for talent.  Given all this, why are we basically giving
> up
> > on Banks after a season that has seen the team be blown up twice, a
> > coaching change, uneven playing time, and so forth.  
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> > We added Chucky to mentor him as well.  Thus, we have a veteran to
> help
> > bring him along in the coming months and years.  To me, on a team with
> a
> > lot of holes, this looks like one position we should be set at for at
> > least the coming year (then we will have a better sense about Banks).
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> > Arguably, we are set at PG (Banks, Atkins) SG (Jiri, Davis) SF (Pierce
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> > please put him here Danny - and Jiri).  This leaves PF and C as the
> > places we should be targetting for next year.  Its one thing to take a
> > project at the 2 or 3, but is it really worth drafting a project or
> any
> > other type of PG this year?
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> > Stonehill College
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> > -----Original Message-----From: owner-celtics@xxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-celtics@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > Of Berry, Mark S
> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:41 AM
> > To: Celtics@xxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Devin Harris and Zydrunas Ilgauskas
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> > On a couple of recent Ray posts:
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> > The Celts love Devin Harris ... I like him, too. Someone compared him
> to
> > Gilbert Arenas and I think that's a pretty good comparison. He's
> > definitely an offensive-minded point guard, but the key is he's a
> point
> > guard. He plays point guard for Wisconsin. He's not a shooting guard
> who
> > would be switched to point guard (hello, Ben Gordon).
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> > Is he my ideal Celtic point guard? No. But I think he'll be a good NBA
> > player. He has a lot of "stuff." He can shoot, but he also can get to
> > the rim, has a great mid-range game, knows how to use the glass, and
> he
> > sees the floor. I like him. He's not Jason Kidd, but those guys don't
> > come along that often. I think he's a better player than Marcus Banks.
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> > On another draft note ... does anyone know if the Hoop Summit game
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> > be broadcast this weekend?
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> > Zydrunas Ilgauskas ... No thanks. Not if it means parting with
> Kendrick
> > Perkins. You don't trade a young center with Kendrick's upside for an
> > aging, seriously injury-prone former all-star who is a shadow of the
> > player he once was. Ilgauskas was a great player before the injuries.
> > Now he's a good player. Nothing more. Stay away.
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> > This and that:
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> > 
> > .... Danny tells Tommy he wants to see more of Marcus, Mihm and Hunter
> > and the same night Walter gets 46 minutes. Then, when Carroll sees
> > that's crazy, he plays Jumaine Jones instead of Hunter. Carroll knows
> > he's out of here, so he's not paying a lick of attention to anything
> > Ainge says. I don't really think it makes much of a difference at this
> > point (the ship has sailed), but it has to make Ainge simmer when
> > Carroll pulls this stuff.
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> > 
> > .... Danny talking about all the point guards in this draft. I don't
> > think he's sold on Banks either. Good. He shouldn't be.
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> > 
> > .... Did anyone have any thoughts on Okafor's performance Saturday? He
> > took over that game with four or five blocks in the first 10 minutes.
> > Just changed the way it was going to be played. Dwight Howard may be
> > great, but if he went to college and stuck around for three years,
> > wouldn't any coach in America be THRILLED if he turned out to be as
> good
> > as Emeka Okafor? How much better than Okafor could he be? And with
> > Okafor, you know you're getting a strong work ethic, a leader and a
> > team-first guy. If I were a GM with the top pick, I wouldn't think
> > twice. No way I'd take Howard over Okafor. No way.
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> > Mark
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