Re: Don't get the detractors

[Ryan W <ubiquitous_am_i@xxxxxxxxx>]

Josh, I think Obie's "claim" that he offered to stay
the rest of the season has been pretty well
established, that is, if you believe what was written
at the time of O'Brien's resignation.  To recap:
O'Brien felt he couldn't be as offensive-minded as
Ainge apparently felt was needed.  Because of this,
O'Brien said he was going to step down at the end of
the year.  Upon hearing this, Wyc or Danny or both
said it would be best if O'Brien stepped down right
now, which O'Brien did.  So, yes, O'Brien did
impliedly offer to stay the rest of the year when he
quit on the team; because his actual resignation was
to occur at the end of the year, not in late January. 
So if you really want to point to the turning point of
this year, it wasn't O'Brien's resignation per se as
much as it was the C's macho retaliatory stance which
said, "You wanna quit at the end of year?  Well, you
can quit right now if that's the case."  Typical macho
posturing, if you ask me.  Surely they must have known
the consequences that would result...yet they were so
indignant that someone would quit on them that they
purposefully put a match to the season.

Ryan

--- Josh Ozersky <jozersky@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Did anyone see the thing today where Obie claims
> that
> he offered to stay all season but that Wyc fired
> him?  Wyc
> meanwhile says Obie "quit."  I wonder which it is...
> 
> Josh
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "lapdoggy" <lapdoggy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <celtics@xxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 3:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Don't get the detractors
> 
> 
> > What's really amazing is how now everyone seems to
> be in love with Obie 
> > and Twan now that they're gone.
> > It doesn't matter what moves Danny makes he'll get
> crushed regardless. 
> > Obie quit on the team. It's hard for an NBA
> franchise to win without a 
> > coach. You'd think for the 9 million bucks Danny
> was shelling out to 
> > Obie, he would have showed a little appreciation?
> Like I said before, 
> > I'm glad the Kentucky experience is almost over.
> (mcCarty, who danny 
> > signed on obie's behalf btw, still has to go)
> > Doesn't anyone remember all of the "I hate Obie"
> banter after the NJ 
> > debacle last year?
> > And Eric Williams, Battie and Brown are not the
> one's making Cleveland 
> > a contender. Cleveland has a coach. That was
> Danny's biggest mistake 
> > this year, bringing back Obie and losing out on
> Silas or Carlisle. I 
> > guess Peter May and his buddy's would rather have
> Obie,, Wallace and 
> > Papille at the helm but I'm glad to take a hit for
> a year to get the 
> > Kentucky stench off of this team.
> > Oh, I almost forgot. I also love how Mike James is
> a far superior PG 
> > than Adkins. I cannot believe the crap they spew
> in the paper.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sunday, February 22, 2004, at 11:49  AM, Dan
> Forant wrote:
> > 
> > > The detractors have made it political like and
> just don't like Ainge 
> > > because
> > > he shipped out Toine's uncoachable butt.. I'm
> convinced even if in a 
> > > year 2
> > > or 3 we win the Conference they will be
> naysayers because of the Toine
> > > trade. The Boston Press is true to form. They
> regularly dumped on the 
> > > Bird
> > > era slomo basketball yet we won't 3 titles from
> a superior athletic 
> > > team.
> > >
> > > DanF
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <Celtic4Hire@xxxxxxx>
> > >
> > >
> > >> Danny is a moron? Let's take a look:
> > >>
> > >> Walker = Jiri, Atkins, 2 no. 1s and LaFrentz
> > >>
> > >> EWill, Battie, Kedrick = Ricky D, Mihm and
> Stewart
> > >>
> > >> Terrible trades? How do you figure? We
> essentially got 3 no. 1s 
> > >> (including
> > >> Welsch) and our starting power forward
> (although out for the year) for
> > > Walker.
> > >> That is outstanding. We got the two best
> players in the second trade 
> > >> in
> > > RickyD
> > >> and Mihm.
> > >>
> > >> Drafting? Got a keeper in Banks and what now
> seems like a God-like 
> > >> lucky
> > >> selection of Brandon Hunter in the second
> round.
> > >>
> > >> Don't get the detractors....
> > >>
> > >> DJessen33


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