From: Ryan W <ubiquitous_am_i@xxxxxxxxx> To: Celtics@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Great job, Danny! Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 08:37:02 -0800 (PST)
You've gone mad, Shawn Niles. First, if Ainge ever counted on a recovery alcoholic, he isn't as smart as he presents himself to be. Surely a man of his intelligence knows that 9 out of 10 alcoholics will relapse at least once over their 'recovery' period. Further, Ainge traded for Raef explicitly knowing of his injury and fully expecting him to undergoe season-ending surgery at some time during the season. So let's not say we counted on Raef and Vin when we knew or should have known that they would both likely have 'issues' at some point during the season.
In another post, you wrote,
"It's going to be so much fun to hear all of the naysayers backtracking at this time next year."
First, yeah, that's going to be hella fun. You and Danny can laugh your asses off on our way to the Finals. Second, this line of argument is almost as compelling as Danny's "I'm smarter than everybody else, so just trust me." The thing is, Danny's traded certainty for uncertainty and so while you can point to some future point as the bones of your contention, we just have to look to the past as the proof of ours; in other words, whatever future success that occurs will still not obstruct the fact of our present struggles (i.e., the team quitting). The playoffs are always better than non-playoffs, winning is always better than losing, and this year has been sabotaged for the myth of future success, which can always be pushed futher into the future until being realized (for such is the nature of future-based goals). Yeah, we'll be better in the future, but who gives a fuck today when we just got abused by the Bulls? I'm sure our future success isn't giving Paul Pierce any solace.
Ryan
--- Shawn Niles <shizzjr@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Do you think maybe Raef needing surgery and Vin > returning to the bottle and > the coach quitting maybe has something to do with > how bad the team has been? > Those are all things that Ainge did not plan on but > they happened anyways. I > don't care who the GM is... if those things happen > it will set the team back > quite a bit. Take away Nowitzki, Finley, and Nelson > and lets see if the mavs > still win 13 out of 16. How do you think the Spurs > do if they lose Parker, > Ginobli, and Poppovich? > > Now add that to the fact that Danny had already > planned on taking a little > step backwards this year and things have become > worse than planned. > > However, they will probably be out from under Vins > contract. They have a few > expiring contracts to use either as trade bait or to > let run out and use the > space themselves. Raef will be back and healthy next > year. Some scoff at > that (enforcer nonsense), but nobody ever called him > the savior here. He is > however a 6-11 big man who can shoot the three, > penetrate, above average > passer, and rebound the basketball. He's not 'the > man', but he's a big piece > of the puzzle and the type of guy that you find on > every championship team. > Ginobli is not 'the man' in SA, but I doubt the > Spurs win the title without > him last year. Add to that the fact that the C's > will use the mid-level > exception next year, which has brought above average > players in recent > years. Plus they have numerous draft picks to either > use themselves or use > as trade bait to bring other pieces here. > > So if you want to look short term or for the right > now, go ahead. I guess > it's the Boston mentality, which I hate so much. But > get those apologies > ready for a year or 2 down the road when this team > is becoming a powerhouse. > >
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