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Re: Great job, Danny!

Do you think maybe Raef needing surgery and Vin returning to the bottle and the coach quitting maybe has something to do with how bad the team has been? Those are all things that Ainge did not plan on but they happened anyways. I don't care who the GM is... if those things happen it will set the team back quite a bit. Take away Nowitzki, Finley, and Nelson and lets see if the mavs still win 13 out of 16. How do you think the Spurs do if they lose Parker, Ginobli, and Poppovich?

Now add that to the fact that Danny had already planned on taking a little step backwards this year and things have become worse than planned.

However, they will probably be out from under Vins contract. They have a few expiring contracts to use either as trade bait or to let run out and use the space themselves. Raef will be back and healthy next year. Some scoff at that (enforcer nonsense), but nobody ever called him the savior here. He is however a 6-11 big man who can shoot the three, penetrate, above average passer, and rebound the basketball. He's not 'the man', but he's a big piece of the puzzle and the type of guy that you find on every championship team. Ginobli is not 'the man' in SA, but I doubt the Spurs win the title without him last year. Add to that the fact that the C's will use the mid-level exception next year, which has brought above average players in recent years. Plus they have numerous draft picks to either use themselves or use as trade bait to bring other pieces here.

So if you want to look short term or for the right now, go ahead. I guess it's the Boston mentality, which I hate so much. But get those apologies ready for a year or 2 down the road when this team is becoming a powerhouse.


From: "David J. Boutte" <dajubo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: "David J. Boutte" <dajubo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Celtics @ igtc.com" <Celtics@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Great job, Danny!
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 00:02:50 -0500 (GMT-05:00)

I don't believe that to be in "tank mode" was the intention of Ainge. Maybe he makes it seem that way because he has messed up so badly that he's covering himself. Maybe I'm missing something, but I just don't see how his moves are making the team better for the future.

-David

-----Original Message-----
From: pmaurice <damekmo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Feb 12, 2004 11:46 PM
To: "Celtics @ igtc.com" <Celtics@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Great job, Danny!

----- Original Message -----
From: "David J. Boutte" <dajubo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>


> 2:30 to go in the 4th quarter, down 107-79 to a Bulls team that's 14-38.
Danny has really done a great job of putting this Celtics team together!!!

Listen, David, I feel your pain. But you have to understand that it doesn't
matter whether they win. Ainge doesn't care about winning. Apparently,
Pierce doesn't care about winning. They got rid of the coach who cared about
winning. There's absolutely no reason to actually win some games and make
the playoffs. God knows that would be a mistake. All the discussion on this
list about X's and O's and who should be playing and how they should be
playing, while brilliant and insightful, means nothing, because winning just
doesn't matter. That'll come soon. Maybe next year when they get Raef the
Enforcer back. So just watch them and laugh. Have a good time. Relax. If you
want to watch a team that hasn't given up, the Mavs have won 13 of 16. I
recommend watching them.

Paul M.

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