Re: RE: You Should Get What You Pay For

["Dan Forant" <dforant1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Performance and ticket prices have nothing to do with each other. It's
called Capitalism...............

DanF

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <wayray@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <celtics@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 12:27 PM
Subject: re: RE: You Should Get What You Pay For


> That works both ways, Cecil. Shouldn't new ownership give the fans some
> time and proof, before they wallop them with the largest ticket increase
in Celtics
> history?
>
> You say give them time to produce results, well I say: produce the results
> and then raise ticket costs, ala the Patriots and Red Sox.
>
> Generally quality ownerships wait until they have accomplished something
> and then hit the fans up.  Or they raise ticket prices and then go out
> and sign quality free agents and take on considerable extra payroll.
> Celtics management has done neither (excluding the Vin Baker morass).
>
> Bad owners like the Bruins' Jacob Brothers operate in this fashion.
>
> Ray
>
>
> > ** Original Subject: RE: You Should Get What You Pay For
> > ** Original Sender: "Wright, Cecil" <Cecil.Wright@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > ** Original Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 07:52:11 -0700 (PDT)
>
> > ** Original Message follows...
>
> >
> > I believe you must give the new ownership time to produce some results.
Some folks can complain and berate them for what they have done thus far
(Ray), or some choose to see the actual product sent out to the parquet
before they make up their minds (most other fans).
> >
> >
> > Cecil
> >
> > -----Original Message-----From: wayray@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:wayray@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: September 22, 2003 12:35 PM
> > To: celtics@xxxxxxxx
> > Subject: You Should Get What You Pay For
> >
> >
> > Apparently the small (4th in the Boston Pro Sports Market) but
enthusiastic
> > core of Celtics fans have embraced the mammoth ticket price increase
sans
> > any management expenditure for other than the bottom of the barrel free
agent
> > signings.
> >
> > Well, you should get what you pay for, and if the other teams in the EC
> > outperform the Celtics, because their ownerships weren't so parsimonious
> > in the redistribution of cap space for quality free agents, then the
fans have no
> > one to blame but themselves for supporting the situation.
> >
> > Myself, I have no problem with sports teams gauging the fans for every
cent
> > they have, as long as they give back something, ala what the Red Sox
> > have done these recent seasons, with the most costly ticket in baseball,
but
> > balanced by a high and competitve payroll.
> >
> > The Celtics have sadly failed in this department the past few years.
> > One  can only hope, that either management rewards the fans for their
> > loyalty in future years by becoming active in the free agent market or
> > the fans vote with their feet and reject further abuses of goodwill.
> > Ray
>
> >** --------- End Original Message ----------- **