Re: Re: Are You Listening Wyc, Steve, and Danny?

[Cecil <cecil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

So if we add 2 additional scorers, all of a sudden the team will then learn
how to run?  Can't see it.  I think we need to learn the fundamentals of
executing a fast break first.  If they learn that, perhaps I can see your
trade.  But until then, we would be cooked without the low post work of
Williams.

Cecil

----- Original Message -----
From: <wayray@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <celtics@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:59 PM
Subject: re: Re: Are You Listening Wyc, Steve, and Danny?


> Cecil,
> 1. Caron Butler is a very good player to an All-Star in the making.
> Somewhere in that range.  You scoop him up.
> And Jones can be a great sixth man.  Frankly, Miami would be
> insane to give up Butler just to dump Jones contract, which makes this
> stuff very unlikely.
>
> 2. The Celtics are not running, they can't score, and they still need
talent.
> This deal adds talent and scorers to the team at a very minimal price.
> Two out of three ain't bad.
>
> 3. Of course the trade would bring the Celtics closer to a title.
> What makes you say it wouldn't?
>
> 4. PG: Either Banks or Welsch develops into a competent PG or because
> the trade provides the Celtics with more talent and depth, you can then
trade
> for a quality PG.
>
> 5. Yes, Butler is returning from an injury, but it doesn't seem to have
any
> long term implications.
> Ray
>
>
> > ** Original Subject: Re: Are You Listening Wyc, Steve, and Danny?
> > ** Original Sender: Cecil <cecil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > ** Original Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:13:05 -0800 (PST)
>
> > ** Original Message follows...
>
> >
> > See now this is what confuses me about you Ray.   We made the playoffs
for 2
> > straight years with what we had.  You along with others lobbied for
changes
> > because we were not going to compete for a title with what we had.
Danny
> > goes out and trades Toine which was supposed to enable the team to run
and
> > play the kind of hoops which Celtic fans have long yearned for.
> >
> > Now, you want to make more changes even though it won't get us any
closer to
> > a title.  And why?  And no point guard in return?
> >
> > I like Jones and Butler but isn't Butler just returning from an injury?
> >
> > Cecil
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----From: <wayray@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: Joy Division <celtics@xxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 6:38 PM
> > Subject: Are You Listening Wyc, Steve, and Danny?
> >
> >
> > > Hard to believe this is true, but if Insider is right and
> > > Miami is willing to include Caron Butler in a deal as an incentive for
a
> > team taking Eddie Jones' contract, then the Celtics really truly need to
be
> > involved. Frankly, I don't believe it, but talk about a super infusion
of
> > talent for a minimal price.
> > >
> > > For instance, the Celtics could do a:
> > >
> > > Battie, Williams, Mills for Butler, Jones, and Walker trade;
> > > heck, even toss in Kedrick Brown (no longer needed) or a draft pick or
> > two.
> > >
> > > And it's a win - win situation for both clubs. The Celtics add the
scorers
> > they badly need and Miami picks up a center and cap space.
> > >
> > > True the Celtics take a bit of a cap and luxury tax hit, but then
there's
> > the extra revenue that would result from the added playoff games, quite
> > possibly many added playoff games generated from the talent upgrade both
> > this and future seasons.
> > >
> > > Think about it: Pierce with Jones and Butler, and hard to believe the
> > Celtics wouldn't contend for the EC Title. Beating one of the WC elite
would
> > still be doubtful, but the team would certainly be much competetive.
> > >
> > > Ray
>
> >** --------- End Original Message ----------- **