re: Re: Are You Listening Wyc, Steve, and Danny?

[wayray@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Cecil,
1. Caron Butler is a very good player to an All-Star in the making.
Somewhere in that range.  You scoop him up.
And Jones can be a great sixth man.  Frankly, Miami would be
insane to give up Butler just to dump Jones contract, which makes this
stuff very unlikely.

2. The Celtics are not running, they can't score, and they still need talent.
This deal adds talent and scorers to the team at a very minimal price.
Two out of three ain't bad.

3. Of course the trade would bring the Celtics closer to a title.
What makes you say it wouldn't?  

4. PG: Either Banks or Welsch develops into a competent PG or because
the trade provides the Celtics with more talent and depth, you can then trade 
for a quality PG.

5. Yes, Butler is returning from an injury, but it doesn't seem to have any
long term implications.
Ray
 

> ** Original Subject: Re: Are You Listening Wyc, Steve, and Danny?
> ** Original Sender: Cecil <cecil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> ** Original Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:13:05 -0800 (PST)

> ** Original Message follows... 

>
> See now this is what confuses me about you Ray.   We made the playoffs for 2
> straight years with what we had.  You along with others lobbied for changes
> because we were not going to compete for a title with what we had.  Danny
> goes out and trades Toine which was supposed to enable the team to run and
> play the kind of hoops which Celtic fans have long yearned for.
> 
> Now, you want to make more changes even though it won't get us any closer to
> a title.  And why?  And no point guard in return?
> 
> I like Jones and Butler but isn't Butler just returning from an injury?
> 
> Cecil
> 
> ----- Original Message -----From: <wayray@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Joy Division <celtics@xxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 6:38 PM
> Subject: Are You Listening Wyc, Steve, and Danny?
> 
> 
> > Hard to believe this is true, but if Insider is right and
> > Miami is willing to include Caron Butler in a deal as an incentive for a
> team taking Eddie Jones' contract, then the Celtics really truly need to be
> involved. Frankly, I don't believe it, but talk about a super infusion of
> talent for a minimal price.
> >
> > For instance, the Celtics could do a:
> >
> > Battie, Williams, Mills for Butler, Jones, and Walker trade;
> > heck, even toss in Kedrick Brown (no longer needed) or a draft pick or
> two.
> >
> > And it's a win - win situation for both clubs. The Celtics add the scorers
> they badly need and Miami picks up a center and cap space.
> >
> > True the Celtics take a bit of a cap and luxury tax hit, but then there's
> the extra revenue that would result from the added playoff games, quite
> possibly many added playoff games generated from the talent upgrade both
> this and future seasons.
> >
> > Think about it: Pierce with Jones and Butler, and hard to believe the
> Celtics wouldn't contend for the EC Title. Beating one of the WC elite would
> still be doubtful, but the team would certainly be much competetive.
> >
> > Ray

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