thanks for the excellent run down on European, etc. players; I think I have a better handle on the top half-dozen or so. Some will slip to #16, so I'm hopeful we're seeing them in action. By the way, Ray, your're on the clock, there's five minutes to go, and you have to choose a point guard. Both Barbosa and Ridenour are available. Who is your choice? Cheers, Gene The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.