case closed (was "no more excuses")

["Thomas Murphy" <tfmiii@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thank you for your testimony, Commander Queeg.

I rest my case.

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> 
> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:10:40 -0800
> From: bird <birdw@mac.com>
> Subject: Re: No more excuses 
> 
> > From : "Thomas Murphy" < tfmiii@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >
> 
> > Some might call it consistency but a more accurate term may be 
> > Pollyanna-ish
> > obstinacy - particularly in the way you are always trying to flaunt 
> > your
> > virtue in contrast to Dan. Please, start flogging another horse?
> 
> While we're offering opinions on other listers, let me characterize you 
> for a minute, Thomas.  Your insistence that anyone who doesn't agree 
> with you is a Pollyanna-esque, green-colored-glasses moron is not 
> appreciated.  To ask someone other than the hordes of "[insert name of 
> celtics or management] sucks" to stop flogging a dead horse is 
> unbelievable.
> 
> > (BTW I don't remember Dan ever saying this crew would win us a
> > championship - which is in effect all he is saying now - so although 
> > his
> > tone may have changed I don't sense a great sea-change in his over-all
> > outlook, but then if it is all that important to your mental peace 
> > perhaps
> > he could comment on that better.)
> 
> While I pay little attention to "four-lines-of-text arranged 
> incomprehensibly", I can see you pay even less.
> 
> > And yes, as was the case with Pitino, Dan is right. This list is 
> > ultimately
> > supposed to be a discussion (not just cheerleading) about the Cs, 
> > right?
> 
> If by "discussion" you mean people saying people "suck", you're 
> apparently right.
> 
> > Neither the Coach
> > nor the GM are capable of getting us to #17: truly a Brain-Dead-Trust. 
> > Sad
> > but true... so what you gonna do? Face facts or try and poke rhetorical
> > holes in 3-pt competitions and other contributor's "consistency"?
> 
> I'm so glad y'all have nailed down the season.  In fact, it eliminates 
> the annoying need to watch the games.  This list may be for 
> "discussion", but it seems that the most vehement down-and-outers don't 
> like when they get challenged.  We can only discuss what some feel is 
> right, not anything else.
> 
> > Sorry for the sharp tone, but I've grown tired of the petty and at 
> > times
> > snippy attitude of some of the contributions lately - not that I've 
> > done
> > much to counteract that - and although this post will in the short run
> > probably only provoke more backbiting ...
> 
> I also apologize for my sharp tone.  Also like you, I won't actually 
> let that stop me from posting this.  See, this way, like you, I get to 
> seem like I'm taking the high ground, but I get to sling the mud, at 
> the same time.  If you don't like the backbiting, you could try not 
> engaging in it.
> 
> >  I think the key is to focus on
> > discussing our opinions concerning what is happening with the Cs not on
> > which contributor to the list is right or wrong or a true fan or a 
> > coyote.
> 
> I agree.  But I'd also say that it would be good not to focus on which 
> listers are morons for not "seeing the light".
> 
> > And as to the charge that "I'm just perpetuating the griping that I'm
> > complaining about" - well, to change the tone you got to start 
> > somewhere,
> > and to gripe about your constant use of reductive, personalized attacks
> > seemed to be about the best place.
> 
> This could be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.  By griping, you will 
> somehow cease all the griping.  Brilliant.
> 
> > Sorry for any hard feelings.
> 
> Gee, me, too.
> 
> > Oh, and while I'm at it I might as well say: "repeated use of stupid 
> > and
> > tasteless tag-lines delenda est"
> 
> Aw, don't like it?  That's a shame.  Good thing I'm put on this earth 
> to satisfy you.  Oh, wait, I'm not.
> 
> I also think that Paul Gaston should be destroyed.
> 
> Bird
> 
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