RE: It's not getting any better

["John Lyell" <jlyell@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I think we got Tony for Travis Knight from the Lakers. I think he went from
Denver to L.A. but never played for them.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-celtics@igtc.com [mailto:owner-celtics@igtc.com]On Behalf Of
Cecil
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:34 PM
To: Celtics@igtc.com
Subject: Re: It's not getting any better


I thought we got Battie from Denver.  Am I mistaken?  And wasn't Ben Pepper
drafted in round 2 in the same year we selected player of the week Chauncey
Billups?

Cecil



----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Sweatt <gsweatt@mtgeinfo.com>
To: <Celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:10 PM
Subject: It's not getting any better


> The Celtics can only go as far as the Pierce and walker can take them and
> that will not be far.  The Baker contract is the problem and will be so
for
> the next three years.  The last year Celtics were a team of promise. One
Bad
> trade ( there has been more than one) and the team is completely reversed
it
> direction.   Wallace should be fired!  We don't need a GM till the last
year
> of Vin Bakers contract. He Can't do anything anyway. The restrictions that
> we now have will limit any chance of the team dramatically improving.   If
> they had just waited... Wallace doesn't know what the word championship
> driven means. Baker would have had to have been better than he had ever
been
> to make this team a championship team.  This list knew this was not a good
> trade.  Look at the Wallace era. What a waste! Poor decisions, Missed
> opportunities, bad planning.  Kedrick's not the problem ( he is at least
> interesting to watch), drafting him #11 when we could of had him with our
> third pick was dumb.  Wasn't Ben Pepper Wallaces first draft pick? Was he
> involved with the trade with Cleveland .  Potapenko was a band aid to our
> rebounding problems? How can a team have a glaring problem with rebounding
> and center for 6 plus years and never address it.  Battie was the only
> decent trade ( the Lakers obviously didnt need him he was a throw away
for
> them), but he is still not a real center.   How is this a championship
team.
> How will it ever be a championship team.  It wont.
> The next few years were the time to make it happen. While Pierce and
Walker
> are in their primes. Three years from now they will be on the downside of
> their careers.
> Forget about trading Vin Baker.  No one wants him and we could only get
> garbage in return. Maybe we should send him to the emerald city in Oz and
> where he can get a brain, a heart and some courage. oh ya! he already has
> all the emeralds ($56,000,000.   Maybe we need another three year plan one
> with out Wallace.    GS