Re: Trade Walker?

["Dan Forant" <dforant1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Nice story. Nice guys finish last. Twang hasn't learned a thing since he's
been a Celt. I'm worried he's exposed himself for what he is and we couldn't
use him in a trade situation.

DanF

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wright, Cecil" <Cecil.Wright@JUSTICE.GC.CA>
To: <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 2:20 PM
Subject: RE: Trade Walker?


> Dan,
>
> I call him a leader because that is how his teammates view him regardless
of his stats.  This team looks at Eric Williams as a leader also and it's
not because of his stats.  It's because of his presence in the lockerroom,
his willingness to help his teammates and a host of other intangibles.  You
predictably fail to mention anything positive about a game where he
admittedly did not play as well as he would have liked.  But I think the 14
assists and 10 boards is a healthy contribution, though he shot poorly.  As
MJ said, he helped put the team in position to win the game even though his
shot was not falling.  I'm sure you are not purposely overlooking that fact,
right?
>
> The dressing down that Walker gave his teammates last year, included a
blurb about himself and Paul also, so it does not appear that he thinks he
is above reproach, which is one sure way to gain the support of your fellow
players.
>
> If all you use to judge a leader is stats, then Lucious Harris is a leader
in your eyes since he shoots a high percentage at the line.  I agree about
the beefing with the refs, but he and Paul do get hacked quite a bit with a
no-call, even though, in Paul's case, he still gets to the line alot.  There
are plenty of no-calls on him.  I would hope that everyone agrees with that.
>
> Cecil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Forant [mailto:dforant1@nycap.rr.com]
> Sent: April 09, 2003 2:53 PM
> To: celtics@igtc.com
> Subject: Re: Trade Walker?
>
>
> Cecil, with due respect, Twang is over-rated. Now I understand you have
been
> involved in basketball. How can you call him a leader? Shooting horrific
3's
> and bad shooting percentage overall including foul shots. His contribution
> as a *leader* is to bitch to refs. Don't worry, I believe the Kings of
> Boston won't trade him. Reason......your right, we may not get equal
product
> in return.
>
> DanF
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wright, Cecil" <Cecil.Wright@JUSTICE.GC.CA>
> To: <celtics@igtc.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 10:11 AM
> Subject: RE: Trade Walker?
>
>
> > Twang, as Forant likes to call him, is not the problem with this team as
> it's currently constructed.  Your pivots are Battie (injured) and Blount.
> Jeez Louise!!  Our backcourt features a guy who has hit the rookie wall
> during the last few games of the regular season with us jockeying for
> playoff position, and a shooting guard who is forced to play out of
> position.  Twang has his weaknesses for sure.  His free throw shooting has
> been friggin horrendous and his field goal percentage would certainly
> improve if he were more judicious in his attempts.  His defense is weak at
> times and his decision making is suspect.  But he does bring an awful lot
to
> the table.  So much so that if we were to cast him away, we better be real
> sure about the return value.  Whether we like it or not, he brings
> leadership and a bond to this team.  Last year, his tongue-lashing was
> reminiscent of what Russell or Larry would have said to their teams.  He
is
> among the best passing forwards in the game a!
> >  nd can handle the rock better than some of our own guards.  His
shooting
> is hot and cold but I like the fact that he is willing to take the
pressure
> shot, though I would prefer to see him take it from 10 feet instead of 30.
> He has willingly swallowed his own pride and deferred to Paul as the go-to
> scorer.  Think Iverson would do that?  Or the great Andre Miller?
> >
> > Also, our front office seem to be on the level of some animals I saw
last
> year at the San Diego Zoo, so why would we trust them to get us a good
> return in any deal involving Walker?  Now you guys trust Wallace to do the
> right thing?
> >
> > He had a bad offensive game vs the Wiz but still chipped in with 14
> assists, 10 boards, 2 blocks and a steal.  Are you sure that Wallace can
get
> that in return?  IF so, and it can save the team money, it should be
> considered.
> >
> > Cecil
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eggcentric@AOL.com [mailto:Eggcentric@AOL.com]
> > Sent: April 09, 2003 10:33 AM
> > To: Douglas342@AOL.com; celtics@igtc.com
> > Subject: Re: Trade Walker?
> >
> >
> >  < If you think that the coach is the problem, get a new coach to tinker
> > with this great player.  On the other hand, if "Bad Antoine" is the
> problem,
> > then it makes little difference who the coach is. > -Douglas
> >
> > Ah, Douglas, back to the good old LADY OR THE TIGER stuff.  Have some of
> > us drawn Walker as he ought to be, and others as he actually appears?
> >
> > If Toine's three coaches have indeed all been the problem, then we fans
> > certainly owe it to their victim - poor improperly used Toine - to bring
> > on yet another coach who is suddenly able to control him more than even
> > his idol, Jordan, has been able to do.
> >
> > And if on the off chance that ''Bad Antoine,'' after he has gone through
> > a half-dozen Celt coaches, turns out to be the alleged problem, will
> > it then finally be appropriate for fans to place a FINAL EVALUATION
> > on his 14-year impact on our team?
> >
> > So don't forget to remind me, Doug, to get back to you by April, 2010,
> > on the results of this Walker conundrum.
> >
> > See you then for the squeezing of the lemon contest?
> >
> > Egg