RE: You're all wrong.....

["Wright, Cecil" <Cecil.Wright@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Here's a man who speaks from personal experience about throwing insults.

Cecil (who was unaware of the 5 post daily limit) 


-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Lee [mailto:rlee_at_channing@yahoo.com]
Sent: September 09, 2002 11:56 AM
To: Celtics@igtc.com
Subject: You're all wrong.....


  This whole Lance against the List thing is funny.  Sure the guy is
obstinate and persistent with his view of Pierce, but it doesn't make him
any worse than then some of the other members.  The Celtics Peanut Gallery -
Bird and  Cecil are notorious offenders of lambasting someone who doesn't
agree with their views but noone singles them out because they put up the
majority of the postings on the group (like 5 posts a day).  The only thing
I don't like is that neither Lance nor the Peanut Gallery are taking their
discussion private (off the list) when it starts to get heated.  It's like a
pissing match trying to show who the most right one is.  Guys, if it goes
past 2 messages, go duke it out in private.
  As for Pierce being a crappy defender, he does slack occassionally off his
assignment but who doesn't in the NBA?  The outside shooting is so horrid as
a whole in the league, it's been ingrained in every players head to lay off
the shooter if he's standing more than 20 feet from the hoop.  Also since
there are fewer kickouts to the shooters, there's no need to stay out there
on defense.  Just slack off the shooter and collapse on the penetrator.  In
my opinion the lack of hitting the open shooter is due to the mindset of
today's American player.   Taking it to the hole is suppose to be measure of
how good and "tough" a player is.  By doing this, it's suppose to show that
the player is not afraid to take it in on the defense.  Iverson is a prime
example of this.  How many times has anyone see AI kick out to a shooter
(granted his team has no shooters but an open shooter is still a better shot
than some of his crazy shots)?  And so AI has this image of being a tough
little f!
earless man when in fact he's just a ballhog.  And what do the good shooters
in the league who go with the more conservative open shot get labeled as?
Soft is the term I believe.  Case in point Ray Allen.  That guy can flat out
shoot the lights out but because he'd rather go for the open jumper than
crash in to 3  defenders, people call him soft.  So my main point is that
Pierce is not the only culprit who has this "poor" defense.  It's the norm.

   If I had to pick a culprit in the US loss (besides the crappy team
defense) , it would be point guards.  How the heck did Andre Miller and
Baron Davis end up in the top 10 in assists in the NBA?  All I saw them do
was drive into the heart of the defense like a kamikaze pilot and put up
contested shots repeatedly.  The weakness of  American point guard play was
finally exposed when Dre' and Baron failed to hit their shooters each and
everytime and instead decided to take it upon themselves to carry the team.
Meanwhile the Yugos, Argentenians, and Spaniards picked apart the D like a
vulture on carrion.  The lack of ball distribution could have attributed to
the straight up zone that congested all the passing lanes in which case it
was George Karl's fault for not setting up some zone busting plays for the
entire team. 
R
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